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After success in Iraq and Syria, ISIL will find it tougher to crack Jordan
The National ^ | June 19, 2014 | Taylor Luck

Posted on 06/21/2014 6:48:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

um..er..hm.. nope!


21 posted on 06/21/2014 7:36:19 PM PDT by odds
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 7:51:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Key salafist theologian and theorist Omar Mahmoud Othman (better known as Abu Qatada) has taken an even harsher stance, using his continuing trial in Jordan as a stage to attack the movement’s massacres of minorities and referring to its leadership as “dogs”.
Wow, that's gonna leave a mark on Iran's shills, who have spent years blaming Salafists for, well, everything.
23 posted on 06/21/2014 7:53:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek

He may be ‘special forces’ trained but he has never seen combat. He is a Hashemite and I grant that they have a storied history. The thing is I doubt that this group ISIS will bother Jordan until they have Iraq well and duly subjugated. The biggest problem is that Jordan’s reasonableness with Israel will end up costing them in the long run. Anwar Sadat found that out. As much as the king may or may not be willing to fight others, it will not matter if he is dead.

Their desire for a world wide caliphate is a long cherished goal. They believe that they are on the verge of having this happen. I would suggest that this is all written of long ago and that the end game does not have Jordan in a position to do anything to stop the evil that is islam.


24 posted on 06/21/2014 10:50:33 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Popman

The king is old as in old news.... his army will not protect him from assassins. His friendliness with Israel will cost him. ISIS will not attack Jordan until Iraq and perhaps several countries are subdued.

Do not kid yourself. This king has nothing extra or special that will protect his people.


25 posted on 06/21/2014 10:52:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Pox

Don’t count on it. And this group is stronger and much more dangerous than you know or can imagine.

I would suggest merry that pieces are falling into place


26 posted on 06/21/2014 10:54:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Wait, but you said he would fold like a cheap suit...care to amend that statements ?


27 posted on 06/22/2014 3:31:59 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the unraveling of the Sykes-Picot treaty between France and Great Britain from WWI. These countries will devolve into their historical religious and tribal areas. We ought to wait this out


28 posted on 06/22/2014 3:36:07 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SeeSharp
When are these caliphaters going to pick a caliph so we can kill him?

Exactly.

We'd be much better off with the Sultan restored and living in the Topkapi Palace - with its GPS coordinates programmed into every Trident sub under the ocean.

The Turk knows how to handle the Arabs.

29 posted on 06/22/2014 3:41:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: cripplecreek
Abdullah is far more pro western than Obama.

Isn't that the truth...!

If only the rest of the ME was modeled after the Jordanian society...

30 posted on 06/22/2014 5:06:42 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

no that is what will happen....


31 posted on 06/22/2014 7:00:36 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I can practically guarantee it. I can imagine plenty, son, and I'm not impressed by a large number of thugs running around in Iraq murdering unarmed civilians for the hell of it or beheading captured police and army personnel and planting their heads on poles along the highways.

Look at this from a historical perspective, more or less the last 40 years.

What is happening in Iraq isn't difficult to imagine considering the “state of mind” of those who have been brutally subjugated for generations. They have little to no “backbone”, and that wasn't going to change overnight.

Having someone else fight your battles did not instill within them the desire to fight for their freedom. This could be a good chance for them to “grow a pair”, but it's hard to overcome their natural instincts, and that probably will not change overnight.

On the other hand, they do not have a brutal leader like Saddam anymore that will force them to fight. Thus, you get what you see happening, along with internal “traitors” who were more than happy to accommodate the thugs who are running around killing with impunity.

These scum are making “impressive” gains not due to their strength or reputation. They are terrifying a beaten down populace that has an “infantile” military, for the most part.

Let's see what happens when they go up against a real army. If you believe you'll see anything like what you're seeing in Iraq, you're not playing with a full deck, IMO.

32 posted on 06/22/2014 7:21:05 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

Oh no I don’t think it will necessarily look like Iraq at all..... but I do not think that Jordan has a ‘real’ army. If you said Israel then I would say you are right. The mind set of the middle east is one of subjugation....It is why Muhammad had a chance on the first place.

And you are right time will tell


33 posted on 06/22/2014 3:47:23 PM PDT by Nifster
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