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U.S. Helps Remove Uranium From Iraq [Article from 2008]
The New York Times ^ | July 7, 2008 | Alissa J. Rubin, Campbell Robertson

Posted on 06/20/2014 8:45:04 AM PDT by caligatrux

BAGHDAD — American and Iraqi officials have completed nearly the last chapter in dismantling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program with the removal of hundreds of tons of natural uranium from the country’s main nuclear site. The uranium, which was removed several weeks ago, arrived in Canada over the weekend, according to officials. The removal was first reported by The Associated Press.

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American military personnel helped move about 600 tons of uranium in the form called yellowcake. It had been stored at Tuwaitha, an installation 12 miles south of Baghdad, which had been the site of Iraq’s nuclear program.

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This was not the first time that the United States intervened to remove potentially harmful nuclear material from Iraq. Just a few days before the Americans formally transferred sovereignty back to Iraq in June 2004, they removed 1.8 tons of low-enriched uranium, as well as other radioactive sources, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

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After the American invasion in 2003, Tuwaitha was looted. Barrels used to store the yellowcake were stolen and sold to local people, who used them to store water and food and to wash clothes, according to a report by the atomic energy agency.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqinukes; oif; sadam; wmd
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Thought this was interesting to revisit in light of the recent developments in Iraq. There were lots of dangerous materials in Iraq after the 2003 invasion, but the media carefully explained why they weren't the WMDs that Bush "lied" about for one reason or another.
1 posted on 06/20/2014 8:45:04 AM PDT by caligatrux
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To: caligatrux

Oh, you mean the ones that Hillary Clinton and John Kerry also said Saddam possessed?


2 posted on 06/20/2014 8:52:31 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: caligatrux

Can anyone explain to me how there are still facilities for manufacturing Sarin and other chemical weapons????

Why did we not level those facilities???


3 posted on 06/20/2014 8:52:54 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: caligatrux

I’m still waiting for anyone to show me where Bush lied.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 8:53:24 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: caligatrux
500 tons of yellowcake, which Joe Wilson said they never bought:
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says
5 posted on 06/20/2014 8:53:49 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: JennysCool
Oh, you mean the ones that Hillary Clinton and John Kerry also said Saddam possessed?

But . . . but that's different

6 posted on 06/20/2014 8:54:03 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: caligatrux

Hmmm. The MSM will not be pleased with this thread. It violates a Sacred Lib Rule:

Since 97% of all articles written about Iraq’s “supposed” WMDs declare that none were found then, by consensus, none were found. Any evidence to the contrary, even if verified by multiple sources, cannot be cited since doing so would violate the Consensus Rule.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 9:00:54 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: caligatrux

Thanks for posting this!


8 posted on 06/20/2014 9:24:33 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Hoodat; caligatrux
This was just raw uranium. It could not be used as a nuclear bomb or a dirty bomb. It couldn't even be used as fuel for a power plant.

You need to stop grasping at straws.

The NeoCons have said they were wrong, there were no WMDs. Bush has also said that, as has Rove and Cheney.

9 posted on 06/20/2014 10:18:29 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
The NeoCons have said they were wrong, there were no WMDs. Bush has also said that, as has Rove and Cheney.

Who cares what Rove thinks. Only Fox news seems too. Bush and Cheney did what they did for the safety of thousands of Americans still in Iraq and the Iraqi people. They bit the bullet and lied about NO WMD when they knew their was. All the info was classified anyway, as it should have been.

10 posted on 06/20/2014 10:41:38 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 1066AD

That yellowcake in Iraq predated the reports that Wilson sought to debunk that Iraq was continuing to try to buy more yellowcake.

In the liberal mind it made sense to be outraged that Bush used the British intel about Iraqi yellowcake shopping in Niger as a “pretense” to add to the case of evidence that Saddam was still pursuing nukes

While ignoring the fact that Saddam had 500 tons of yellowcake already stockpiled, and why ...


11 posted on 06/20/2014 11:00:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Ben Ficklin

LOL! Do you think Iraq bought 550 tons of Nigerien yellowcake as landfill, and then kept it for 20 years for no reason other than to give UN inspectors a job? Or maybe he expected he could just wait out the west and then carry on.

If we had left Saddam’s residual uranium stockpile there at Tuwaitha, at the site of the 1981 Israeli-bombed Osirak nuclear reactor, and if ISIS had it now, I wonder if libs would still be all cool with it..


12 posted on 06/20/2014 11:21:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: justa-hairyape; silverleaf
Fact Check: No WMDs in Iraq

As factcheck points out, Bush stopped claiming there were WMD long before he left office, so if you want to argue, go argue with Bush.

Most people think that the NeoCons actually played a roll in contriving the mis-info about Iraqi WMDs so they could use it as a pretext to invade.

13 posted on 06/20/2014 12:01:50 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

This was just raw uranium. It could not be used as a nuclear bomb or a dirty bomb. It couldn't even be used as fuel for a power plant. You need to stop grasping at straws. The NeoCons have said they were wrong, there were no WMDs. Bush has also said that, as has Rove and Cheney.

The fact that you are arguing about NeoCons and Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc., shows just how out of touch with reality you are. You read this article and see political arguments and this party versus that party. You are just eating your bread and watching the circuses like a good little citizen while Rome burns.

14 posted on 06/20/2014 12:30:48 PM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Bush stopped defending himself in his second term, He basically abandoned us to the democrats and crawled in a hole. Maybe history will tell us why someday.. Still he was better than having Kerry as president.

“Most people think that the NeoCons actually played a roll in contriving the mis-info about Iraqi WMDs so they could use it as a pretext to invade.”

actually that doesn’t apply to “most people”
Too many of us have friends and friends of friends who have served in Iraq and saw and reported and supported what we were trying to do there

You are confusing “most people” with the preponderance of “opinion” on the internet from libspeak and the lamestream MEdia

btw wth is a NEOCON? Talk about a lame term

There was no “misinformation” about Iraqi. Maybe some wrong intelligence from inbred agency exchanges that kept repeating and embellishing on the same reports and sources ... there was at least one documented attempt of false report fed into the system to twist the Niger uranium story- but not by a US source

but no organized program of misinformation fed to US Congress, our allies, the CIA director, and the President of the US to lead us to war

sorry to bust your bubble


15 posted on 06/20/2014 12:33:27 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: caligatrux
"You read this article and see political arguments and this party versus that party"

Quite the opposite.

By using NeoCon, I am implying that this is an issue of foreign policy doctrine, not political parties. Keep in mind that the NeoCons had never before been in a position of authority over foreign policy. In fact, George Bush campaigned on a Realist foreign policy doctrine.

If you go back to 2002 and 03, there were numerous Republican Realists who never believed the "intelligence" about WMDs in Iraq. And, as doubt about the veracity of the "intelligence" began to grow, those Realists who initially believed the "intelligence", were the earliest to stop believing.

Myself, I actually believed the story about WMDs in Iraq. I can't tell you exactly when I stopped believing because it was a gradual realization. Certainly, by the time it became apparent that SoS Powell would serve only one term that I probably knew.

As for you saying "while Rome burns", it burned a long time ago.

This is/was an issue that most people wanted let die as part of the past. But now, all the NeoCons are out and about in a coordinated full court press advocating for re-invading Iraq. And the best way to stop that is shine the light on what the NeoCons did in the first place.

16 posted on 06/20/2014 1:36:07 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I was against the previous invasion and I'm against any military action in Iraq now. I'm not attempting to defend Bush or his administration in any way. All I am saying is that the "there were no WMDs in Iraq" mantra is untrue. Did Bush lie? Maybe, I don't really know, but at the very least, his arguments for invading Iraq relied on faulty and false intelligence. Did the Bush administration amplify or embellish the WMD case for invading Iraq? I think so, and maybe they even lied about it.

But there were WMDs in Iraq before, during and after the invasion. Both the CIA and the UN have openly admitted that. They were inspected and catalogued by the UN. Some of them were chemical agents stored in "sealed" bunkers because they were considered to dangerous to move or destroy.

The CIA and UN reports also made it clear that some of the WMDs that they knew Iraq had prior to the invasion could not be located after the invasion. While there was some evidence that some of these "missing" WMDs had been destroyed, the facilities had been so throughly looted and razed that the inspectors could not verfiy that all of those WMDs had actually been destroyed.

There's also significant evidence, although no clear-cut proof, that WMDs were transferred to Syria from Iraq in the days leading up to the invasion.

Were these WMDs enough to justify invading Iraq? No, not to me, but I was never for the invasion in the first place.

Nevertheless, the fact remains that there were WMDs in Iraq before, during and after the invasion. That is proven fact. They just aren't considered to be the WMDs on which the Bush administration based its argument for invading Iraq.
17 posted on 06/20/2014 2:38:35 PM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: caligatrux

I understand. You think the uranium mentioned in this article is a wmd.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 3:42:31 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

We know there were WMD’s. No question. What was at question was were those the WMD that GWB and Cheney were referring too ? The New York times admitted there were plenty of WMD components, but all were known to the UN, so they do not count. Bull crap. The UN itself admitting it did not know what was in the bunkers it sealed because leakage made it impossible to survey the bunkers. And those bunkers are now controlled by Al Qaeda. We have no clue what they are gonna pull out of those sealed bunkers. The only people who would know, are former Baathists now working with ISIS. So when thousands are killed by your unknown unknown, what will you say then ?


19 posted on 06/20/2014 4:22:08 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: silverleaf

There are simple reasons why Bush et. al. dropped the claims. Many of those have to do with security issues, classified issues, terrorist issues, etc. etc. But the main reason was the next president was going to bomb Libya/Syria and they did not want the public to know that bombing WMD facilities created so many problems in Iraq. So the fools that bought the no wmd line, actually made Libya and Syria possible. The air assault on Syria was delayed at the last minute, but still could occur.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 4:27:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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