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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hmm? Deport 11 million people? Why?

Probably could do everything needed with laws already on the books. If you wanted to be especially kind, you could give a bit of warning beforehand, but in essence, you simply use existing fines against any company who hires illegal aliens. You use existing penalties for those who fail to report salaries and pay payroll taxes. You use existing rules that forbid conducting a business as an illegal alien.

You use all those agents who were hired to go annoy Americans over PelosiCare, and you use them to shut down hundreds of thousands of gardening businesses, construction subcontractors, cleaning subcontractors, etc. You send agents into the swap meets and shut down those who don't pay taxes on sales, or if the state collects sales taxes, who fail to pay sales taxes.

That 11 million (which is likely half the actual number) will quickly dwindle down to 5 million in just a couple years or so. But don't be overly concerned about those 5 million, likely they will have already started the process of dealing with their legal status - again, mostly using existing laws.

Amnesty has been tried, it didn't solve the problem, it created a bigger problem and even more illegals who flaunted their status. Thousands of Americans have been killed since the last round of amnesty by illegals. Millions have had their jobs affected by illegals. Millions have paid more for homes because of the illegals, millions have paid far more for their insurance because of illegals.

Amnesty isn't the solution - less than half of those who qualified for amnesty never even bothered to start the process. Why bother? If you do, you have to pay money, spend time, then pay taxes, then pay for insurance, then pay for registrations for cars and payroll taxes and sales taxes and everything else.

Let's take for example Jose. He's run a gardening business maintaining commercial and city greenspace landscape for the past 25 years. His yearly commercial contracts are worth close to a million dollars, and he pays 25 people to handle those contracts and also residential service. He has no worry about anyone challenging his contracts, because anyone who did would have to have worker's comp insurance, pay payroll taxes, pay taxes on their profits, pay sales taxes on their equipment, pay property taxes on the tools used for their trade. Worst that Jose has to bother with is a quick stop at a payphone to report an employee to ICE if they start to give him hassles for anything.

There are tens of thousands of Jose's out there. They are the engine of the underground economy. Jose's brother runs a construction firm which handles framing contracts. His cousin runs a firm that handles concrete forms for freeway and parking lot construction, another cousin handles subcontracts for workman's comp claims. A niece owns a nice chain of liquor stores. They pay cash for their purchases, and constantly evade taxes and fees that competing businesses must pay.

Millions of jobs, big and small, that could be opened up for, oh gosh, you know, those tens of millions of Americans who would like to find a job. Millions of entry level jobs which our youth are locked out of. Millions of Americans who find themselves at a disadvantage in the job market because they might lack the skills at speaking Spanish, Mandarin, Portuguese or other language requirements to speak to the mostly illegal staff or subcontractors.

And anyone who actually, seriously intends on enforcing the existing laws will actually pick up that vaunted ‘Hispanic’ vote. Because THAT vote is the one that is proud to be American, who is sick and tired of explaining to the counter worker that no, they don't speak Spanish, don't need a translator, don't need Spanish forms. Who are tired of pressing 1 for English. And who will most directly benefit from the first wave of actual enforcement of immigration laws.

17 posted on 06/20/2014 5:05:36 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

Outstanding post !


19 posted on 06/20/2014 5:18:11 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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