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To: zeugma
Civilized nations recognized the dangers of heroin is what happened. What part of "Heroin destroyed China", it is destroying Russia, India, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa.........don't you get? That is is problem I have with Libertarians. They are dangerously ignorant of world affairs and human history. We pay taxes for our Federal Government to protect us. We live in a dangerous world, my naive friend.
16 posted on 06/18/2014 6:14:46 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: mgist

I would even say that opium was likely the “forbidden fruit”.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/heroin/etc/history.html


17 posted on 06/18/2014 7:00:36 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: mgist
Yet another enabler of the police state. Like I said, go back to the late 1800s and the early part of this century when it was completely legal to pop down the local drug store and actually buy heroin. People in America weren't dropping dead across the country because of it. The places you are describing were and are, for the most part, 3rd world hell holes without freedom or prosperity to speak of. As such, what else do people have but drugs and other shit? Look at the alcoholism rate in what was the USSR, and what is now Russia. Compared to this country it is freaking off the charts. You can't say that it's just because of availability, because I can go down the street and get enough vodka to keep me blotto for months.

So, why don't I? Could it be, that despite the protests of neo-prohibitionists such as yourself, I don't actually desire such a thing? I'm also not getting high on pot, acid, or heroin. You know all of those drugs are illegal right? Yet, given am hour or so, I'd be willing to bet I could locate all of them if I really wanted to. The thing that stops me is not the law or your police state. It is simply my lack of desire. I don't even take aspirin unless I really need it. All of the bad things that come from drugs are happening, yet they are all illegal, so we also get a ton of other bad things thanks to people like you who support the ever expanding police/nanny state.

The drug war is impossible to win. It is impossible to stop people who want to do drugs from doing them. I can prove that without any difficulty whatsoever.

Think of the most insanely strict totalitarian paradise you support. The police can enter everybody's dwelling at any time for any reason or no reason at all. You have no personal property, nor any privacy. Your conversations can be recorded at any time. You have no freedom of movement, no ability to do anything unless your masters tell you you have their permission to do so. There is such a place you know, and it exists right here in this country. They are called prisons. Yet drugs get in there too!. Prisons have everything you totalitarians could ever dream of, yet they still aren't drug free.

But you and your ilk have the nerve to tell me that all I have to do is give up just a little more of my liberty to usher in your impossible drug-free world. Logic is not a strong point is it? How much of your income is derived from the anti-drug police state?

18 posted on 06/18/2014 8:48:02 PM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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