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To: annalex; daniel1212
Right, that is perfect examples of Protestant obfuscation, when the simple fact remains that the Bible says one thing and your central doctrine says its opposite. The very length of your “explanations” shows dishonesty.

"Protestants obfuscation"?! I doubt you know what the term even means. Are you now saying you are only into "sound bite" and twitter feed theology or that if an idea cannot be condensed into 140 characters or less, you won't consider it? The sheer irony of your comment is unmistakable when we consider the endless libraries of Catholic church canons, bulls, catechisms and "apostolic" letters and constitutions created over the years to explain Roman Catholicism's differences with what Scripture plainly says and their reasons why they contend it doesn't mean what it says. If "length" of explanation is a key to its dishonesty, then you have much to condemn in your own religion.

As any student of the Bible knows, Scripture interprets Scripture. You cannot remove a passage from its context, audience and purpose, divorce it from other verses that expound on terms and further explain points and then expect a clear basis for a doctrine from a single or a few verses. Especially not the doctrine of justification - the basis of our Christian faith.

Go ahead, annalex, believe that your works save you. Believe you must merit eternal life and God OWES it to you after you've jumped through all the hoops your religion mandates. I'll continue to pray that the Lord opens your eyes and heart to the truth of His glorious grace and you discover what living an abundant life of faith is all about.

120 posted on 06/21/2014 4:01:10 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums; daniel1212
Are you now saying you are only into "sound bite"

That is phase 2 of the Protestant obfuscation process. Phase 1 was to post a massive volume of commentaries and syllogism that nevertheless do not alter the fact that the Apostle wrote "Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" (James 2:24), and the entire context leads to that conclusion. Phase 2 is to play dumb and pretend the question was not clear, or impute to the poster some other error ("Go ahead, annalex, believe that your works save you").

Phase 3 is posting verses that show that works of Roman, Jewish law, or works generally done for some temporary reward do not save anyone; in other words post verses that match perfectly Catholic theology on the issue, pretending it is what Luther meant with his antics.

After that there is a phase "but you pray to statues" and "but you molest little children".

I have seen your dog and pony dances around the second chapter of James many times. Tons of paper pulp was wasted explaining that somehow St. James did not mean what he said. It is for that reason that Protestantism is not merely another set of errors, but also an especially comical one. If there were a degree in Protestant wile denial of plain scripture, I'd have it. My contempt is based on sound knowledge of your (plural) tactics.

122 posted on 06/21/2014 6:09:29 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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