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Iraqis flock to volunteer to fight insurgents
Associated Press ^ | Jun 14, 2014 3:50 AM EDT | Hamza Hendawi

Posted on 06/14/2014 2:17:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Hundreds of young Iraqi men flocked to volunteer centers across Baghdad Saturday to join the fight against Islamic militants who have advanced across the country’s north this week.

They were responding to a call by Iraq’s most revered Shiite cleric for Iraqis to defend their country against the Sunni Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which seized Iraq’s second-largest city Mosul and Saddam Hussein’s hometown of Tikrit in a lightning advance. …

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdad; iran; iraq; isis; rop; shiites
How come the regular defenders just up and ran away?
1 posted on 06/14/2014 2:17:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
"How come the regular defenders just up and ran away?"

Doesn't say much for all the US money and training that went into reestablishing the Iraqi army. Contrast their performance with the Kurdish Peshmerga who stand and fight and are a very effective militia/army.

2 posted on 06/14/2014 2:29:00 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai

Most of them are just in the military to collect a pay check. Their primary loyalty is to their tribe or religious faction, not to their country.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 2:29:18 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Olog-hai

Lack of courage?


4 posted on 06/14/2014 2:35:40 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper

Probably lack of caring. Of course, both ISIS and Iran will put that down to no faith in Allah.


5 posted on 06/14/2014 2:37:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

No mention of the 200 American construction workers surrounded at the airport?....did they make it?


6 posted on 06/14/2014 2:44:17 AM PDT by Therapsid
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To: ArmstedFragg
Their primary loyalty is to their tribe or religious faction, not to their country.

That's believable. Sunni vs. Sunni not allowed? That would complicate military engagements.
7 posted on 06/14/2014 2:53:34 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Olog-hai

“Iraqis flock to volunteer to fight insurgents”

Let me fix it.

“Iraqis flock to volunteer to join insurgents”

or

“Iraqis flee rather than fight insurgents”


8 posted on 06/14/2014 4:18:48 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Olog-hai

It’ll be a few months (or longer) before these recruits are properly trained. Not that the Iraqi army has a good training program in any case.....


9 posted on 06/14/2014 4:47:38 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Therapsid

There is a thread about evacuations here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3167451/posts


10 posted on 06/14/2014 4:54:46 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Therapsid

There were many who were flown out last night before midnight, one article said 300 but that count could have been before the 200 were left there to be removed yet. The companies were sending planes to pick up their personnel...so how many left?

Iran was sending troops (10,000 last count I heard??) in to fight ISIS....another issue in and of itself. Iran being Shiite and the ISIS Sunni....maybe the Iraqi forces were Sunni that ran, and can’t religiously fight their religious counterparts??


11 posted on 06/14/2014 5:02:13 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Olog-hai

well they better get fighting


12 posted on 06/14/2014 5:27:42 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kackikat
It is a situation where the US armed both sides...ISIS and Iraq gov. And the only ones who can stop it are our enemies in Iran and helping the Assad gov fight the rebels. A stronger push for an independent Kurdish state could involve Turkey, a member of NATO. Are we still arming and training ISIS in Syria? Are we still trying to goad Russia into a situation where they could cut off oil to pro-Kiev govs?

Yikes.

13 posted on 06/14/2014 5:37:04 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

See my post #83 on thread “I can’t stop thinking about those poor men dead on the side of the road, I can’t sleep”...or something like that.

Yes, we armed both sides by interfering with Libya, Syria, and then having talks with Iran...Iran is not our ally, yet now they are involved in this Iraq conflict...Why? Because they have a vested interest in what happens?

The Sunni’s are the ISIS (Obama letter of recommendation and college help came from a Sunni Prince hence his reluctance to get involved, imho). So if the Iranians are Shiite’s then they will help Iraq eradicate the ISIS for personal gain....everything costs something and this isn’t good.

How does that help us if Iran gets a stronghold in Iraq? It doesn’t. It only empowers another violent group of Shiite jhadists who want to kill Jews and Infidels (us).

There should be two parts to Iraq...a Sunni Province once the violent ISIS/ISIL are destroyed, and a Shiite Territory, where less violent encounters would happen.....sort of like a division of territories...and put the Shiites next to Iran.

That resolution was talked about during the Iraqi War...it didn’t happen, and now look at this mess. People are being displaced anyway now due to violent bloodshed instead of a more organized move back then. Which is better?


14 posted on 06/14/2014 5:50:07 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Olog-hai

Iran sees Saudi influence:

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8024.htm

“Regime mouthpieces, both those who support the Rohani government and those who support the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and the ideological camp, accused Saudi Arabia of being behind ISIS activity in Iraq after its defeat in Syria, either on orders from the U.S. and Israel, or independently as a Sunni force combatting Shi’ites.”


15 posted on 06/14/2014 6:20:29 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa

Provide the minimum aid to both sides to keep them fighting one another for the next century or until they run out of fighters.


16 posted on 06/14/2014 7:26:01 AM PDT by ozdragon
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To: Olog-hai
As the Iraq situation deteriorates, the MSM is totally not curious why the U.S. State Department and the Obama White House bungled this. The situation did not happen in a vacuum. It was a U.S. government caused fiasco with major political players involved up to their eyebrows. (Yes, that's you, Hillary Clinton.)

The real question is: Who lost Iraq? It sure wasn't George W, Bush because he hasn't been POTUS since 20 January 2009. Gee, it must’ve happened on Barry's watch? Oh, no! And the MSM goes into full amnesia or blame Bush mode. Anything to avoid dealing with the real world failure of their Dear Leader and his band of incompotents.

17 posted on 06/14/2014 8:17:19 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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