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U.S.-Taliban Prisoner Exchange [Hearing - Live Thread]
CSPAN ^ | June 11, 2014

Posted on 06/11/2014 6:23:23 AM PDT by don-o

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Defense Department General Counsel Stephen Preston testify on the release of five Taliban detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bergdahl; bergdahldealhearing; hagel; livetalian5hearing; taliban5hearing
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1 posted on 06/11/2014 6:23:23 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

First question. Was any money involved?


2 posted on 06/11/2014 6:24:29 AM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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To: maggief

Can we get the latest version of The List, please?


3 posted on 06/11/2014 6:24:35 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

I want testimony from the CIA guy that was outed.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 6:30:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: don-o

Is Hagel going to fall on his pocket knife?


5 posted on 06/11/2014 6:31:16 AM PDT by AU72
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To: don-o

The Haqqani network of local Afghan Mafiosi held Bergdahl.

The Haqqani network doesn’t even LIKE The Taliban.

Why did Haqqani Mafiosi exchange Bergdahl for Taliban Leaders they would shoot if they caught them?


6 posted on 06/11/2014 6:32:28 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: don-o
Chuck....The Taliban now have an office in Qatar which I believe was conceived with the blessing of the USA...and probably USA finds.

I'm sure we're not allowed to monitor it. So how many CIA dudes to we have running around Qatar now?

Chuck....Why isn't Karzai speaking to us?

7 posted on 06/11/2014 6:32:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: don-o
1. Health in danger

2. Previously consulted with congress

3. Swiftboating

4. It was an oversight, sorry

5. Platoon full of psychopaths

6. Taliban threated to kill

7. "What difference does it make?"

8. Stockholm Syndrome

9. PTSD

10. No evidence converted to Islam, fraternized with Taliban, and declared jihad

11. Physically abused, confined in cage

12. Racism

13. Moderate Taliban

14. “Raggedy" platoon

15. "No matter what, to leave an American behind in the hands of people who would torture him, cut of his head, do any number of things"

16. Obama broke unconstitutional law (that he signed)

17. Wasn't only soldier to 'walk off' post

18. Only tenuous link to U.S. deaths

19. “PR campaign by Republicans” ... to “muddy the waters”

20. Hagel, NOT Obama, made the final call on #Bergdahl swap, (see also #16)

21. The Taliban Five aren't as bad as you think, three were governors

22. Decision made day before

23. Taliban Five akin to soldiers in American Revolution

24. Taliban ‘part of the fabric Of Afghanistan’ — not ‘terrorists’

25. "The president made the ultimate decision."

8 posted on 06/11/2014 6:35:10 AM PDT by maggief
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To: don-o

Who in their right mind trades a PFC that walked away from his post for five Taliban generals?


9 posted on 06/11/2014 6:44:55 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: don-o

Afghanistan will suffer most from the release of the 5.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/02/us-afghanistan-usa-bergdahl-idUSKBN0ED0I620140602

(Reuters) - The Afghan president is angry at being kept in the dark over a deal to free five Taliban leaders in exchange for a captured U.S. soldier, and accuses Washington of failing to back a peace plan for the war-torn country, a senior source said on Monday.

The five prisoners were flown to Qatar on Sunday as part of a secret agreement to release Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, who left Afghanistan for Germany on the same day.

The only known U.S. prisoner of war in Afghanistan, Bergdahl had been held captive for five years.

“The president is now even more distrustful of U.S. intentions in the country,” said the source close to President Hamid Karzai’s palace in Kabul, who declined to be identified.

“He is asking: How come the prisoner exchange worked out so well, when the Afghan peace process failed to make any significant progress?”


10 posted on 06/11/2014 6:48:59 AM PDT by Tugo (Never Forget.)
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To: Tugo

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2553565088001/hagel-likely-to-take-questions-on-bergdahl-at-house-hearing/#sp=watch-live


11 posted on 06/11/2014 6:57:12 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Even Al-Jazeera has problems with release of Taliban War Criminals:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/06/afghanistan-bergdahl-taliban-201469101014987972.html

To add insult to injury, on May 31, five high-ranking Taliban members incarcerated at Guantanamo on a variety of charges, including mass killings, were set free in exchange for one US soldier, allegedly a deserter. The question on the minds of the Afghan people now is: Whatever happened to the US policy of “we will not negotiate with terrorists”.

In February, 65 prisoners were released from the high-security Bagram detention centre, in spite of US protests. The men were allegedly responsible for the deaths of Afghan civilians and coalition troops. Afghan President Hamid Karzai claimed there was not enough evidence against them, but the US called the move “regrettable”.

If the US found the release of these 65 detainees so unpalatable, how could it have freed five of the Taliban’s most dangerous leaders last week, who will now live in luxurious Qatar?

One of the so-called “Guantanamo Five” is Mullah Fazl, who has been described as “vicious and violent”. In 1999, he was one of the senior Taliban commanders who were accused of overseeing the destruction of an area near Kabul called Shamali. Fazl allegedly supervised the burning of villages and other atrocities, including rape. On my visit to the area, I witnessed the scale of the destruction, and a local commander told me how over 300,000 villagers were chased out during Fazl’s campaign.

We applaud the US policy of not leaving any soldier behind. But does this policy apply to one who allegedly deserts his post and walks off into the night into known enemy territory? What about the six brave soldiers who - according to CNN - lost their lives looking for the alleged deserter? Do their lives not count in the grand scheme of things? And what about the multitude of Afghans who have been murdered by these five men and their followers?

The US statement that these five men will not be allowed to leave Qatar for one year is hard to stomach. They may not venture out of Qatar, because they will be under strict surveillance, but they will be free to move around the country as they wish.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 6:59:04 AM PDT by Tugo (Never Forget.)
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To: don-o

Hagel will appear hung over from last nights vodka bender. Make sure he’s sworn in so his lies are under oath.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 7:02:43 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: don-o

Thanks for posting this!


14 posted on 06/11/2014 7:04:22 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: don-o

‘The Taliban is in the House.’ You know,—the White one.


15 posted on 06/11/2014 7:09:46 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hagel rhymes with bagel and a bagel has a hole,
Hagel will finagle but the bagel wont lose soul.


16 posted on 06/11/2014 7:15:07 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: tflabo
‘The Taliban is in the House.’ You know,—the White one.

See my tagline since 10-10-12.

17 posted on 06/11/2014 7:15:25 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: tflabo

The ranking D member (?) is starting out laying out support for the decision. He’s asserting that we have to negotiate with the Taliban.

Rambling on about status of Gitmo detainees.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 7:15:46 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: exit82

true to tag


19 posted on 06/11/2014 7:16:51 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: tflabo

First mention of Bush - RE: Signing statements.


20 posted on 06/11/2014 7:17:34 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Caught that. It didn’t take long, did it?


21 posted on 06/11/2014 7:19:46 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bushbacker1

Hagel ignoring McKeon’s statement that the committee is not interested in hearing about Bergdahl right now.


22 posted on 06/11/2014 7:23:13 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Bushbacker1

Hagel says Bergdahl’s status was “Missing—Captured”.

There were no charges against Bergdahl, and there are none now.

Like most Americans, I have been disappointed by how the Bergdahl family has been treated by some Americans.

The BS is flying fast and furious.


23 posted on 06/11/2014 7:24:36 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: don-o

Hagel offended how Bergdahl’s family has been treated.


24 posted on 06/11/2014 7:25:18 AM PDT by maggief
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To: don-o
Byron York ‏@ByronYork 1m

Hagel: Bergdahl was listed 'as missing/captured.' 'No charges were ever brought against Sgt. Bergdahl, and there are no charges pending now'

25 posted on 06/11/2014 7:25:34 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: tflabo; Sarah Barracuda

Tflabo,

Love it!

Sarah barracuda, ping to this one :D

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3166229/posts?page=16#16


26 posted on 06/11/2014 7:25:41 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: don-o

Hagel is just reading the talking points and praising the deserter and his family. Saying the (as I hear it) members of Berdahl’s unit are liars!


27 posted on 06/11/2014 7:27:02 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: maggief

Bringing up “proof of life” video from six months ago.

Hearing a lot about “classified” information and closed settings later today. So far, reports are what they have shared as such is unconvincing.


28 posted on 06/11/2014 7:28:23 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
Hagel talks about how we always rescue Americans, especially those in the military. Why can't we get that marine back from Mexico?
29 posted on 06/11/2014 7:28:37 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: don-o

Proof of Live video — January 2014.

Trade/exchange — June 2014.

[Did they get a Proof of Live for June? Apparently not. So, how did they know Bergdahl was still alive, since he seemingly appeared to be weak and ill in the January video?]

Hagel is doing the ole dipsy-doodle fast-foot shuffle.


30 posted on 06/11/2014 7:29:03 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bushbacker1
We TP'ers no likey liars...


31 posted on 06/11/2014 7:29:04 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: don-o

Transgender Chuckie falling on his sword for his “messiah”. What a jerk.


32 posted on 06/11/2014 7:29:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: tflabo

Hagel falling on the sword for sure.


33 posted on 06/11/2014 7:31:16 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: exit82

We have a memo of understanding with the government of Qatar.

Will detail, in the closed portion of the hearing later, that there is a list of travel restrictions and conditions on the movements of the Taliban detainees.

Morning of May 27th, after 3 days of intensive talks, arrangements were being nailed down.

Emir of Qatar phoned Obama personally to pledge to

Qataris said any leak would end any discussions of Bergdahl’s release.

Did not know the precise location of handoff until one hour before Bergdahl was recovered.

Once Bergdahl was obtained on May 31st, Taliban detainess were transferred.

Hagel “takes responsibility DAMN SERIOUS about these detainess”.

FUCH.


34 posted on 06/11/2014 7:31:29 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: TomGuy

Takes responsibility of transfer of terrorist “damn seriously.”

pfft.


35 posted on 06/11/2014 7:31:30 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

26. Obama victim of Groupthink.


36 posted on 06/11/2014 7:32:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

For all his bluster, here comes blaming Bush!


37 posted on 06/11/2014 7:32:39 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: exit82

CH says no basis to charge these detainees in Federal Court.

Then why were we holding them for 12 years, numbnuts!


38 posted on 06/11/2014 7:32:44 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Bushbacker1

Never forget that Hagel was a former RINO.


39 posted on 06/11/2014 7:33:26 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: maggief

“Not a risk free business. We get that.”

He’s saying that the risks here are mitigated. He just says they are. Not how.


40 posted on 06/11/2014 7:34:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: maggief

Just damn! He said Damn twice! Proving his manhood?


41 posted on 06/11/2014 7:34:24 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Bushbacker1

It was all about this poor sick young man who had to be rescued from those nasty Talley Bans. Hagle & Co. subordinated US interests to negotiate with the enemy who they GREATLY aided and abetted.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 7:34:26 AM PDT by Tugo (Never Forget.)
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To: Tugo
They may not venture out of Qatar, because they will be under strict surveillance, but they will be free to move around the country as they wish.

They will be free to meet with their families and use couriers to direct operations against the Afghan government and us. They have other ways to communicate with their people. There is no solace in restricting their movements to within Qatar. They are generals who can direct hostile actions against us no matter where they are physically located. And their release boosts the morale of our enemies.

43 posted on 06/11/2014 7:34:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: TADSLOS
1. Health in danger

2. Previously consulted with congress

3. Swiftboating

4. It was an oversight, sorry

5. Platoon full of psychopaths

6. Taliban threated to kill

7. "What difference does it make?"

8. Stockholm Syndrome

9. PTSD

10. No evidence converted to Islam, fraternized with Taliban, and declared jihad

11. Physically abused, confined in cage

12. Racism

13. Moderate Taliban

14. “Raggedy" platoon

15. "No matter what, to leave an American behind in the hands of people who would torture him, cut of his head, do any number of things"

16. Obama broke unconstitutional law (that he signed)

17. Wasn't only soldier to 'walk off' post

18. Only tenuous link to U.S. deaths

19. “PR campaign by Republicans” ... to “muddy the waters”

20. Hagel, NOT Obama, made the final call on #Bergdahl swap, (see also #16)

21. The Taliban Five aren't as bad as you think, three were governors

22. Decision made day before

23. Taliban Five akin to soldiers in American Revolution

24. Taliban ‘part of the fabric Of Afghanistan’ — not ‘terrorists’

25. "The president made the ultimate decision.”

26. Obama is a prisoner of groupthink

44 posted on 06/11/2014 7:35:29 AM PDT by maggief
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To: don-o

This may be the only time that a soldier was asked to sign a non disclosure statement for a simple Missing/Captured comrade. WHY?


45 posted on 06/11/2014 7:35:32 AM PDT by kempster
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To: exit82

CH said entire National Security team reviewed CH’s letter covering transfer, and were in full agreement with contents.

Of course, no one in Congress could see it.

Says they met the threshold of the 2014 Defense Authorization Act—threat of detainees was substantially mitigated.

Now weasel wording how this action was consistent with all of America’s actions in the past pertaining to POWs.

Which is utter dreck.


46 posted on 06/11/2014 7:36:01 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: don-o

Someone on the committee needs to ask Hagel whether any money changed hands.

There have been rumors/speculation that upwards of $1 to $5 million may have been a part of the ‘exchange’.


47 posted on 06/11/2014 7:36:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Red_Devil 232

“Damn seriously, damn seriously.” Got your talking point, MSM?


48 posted on 06/11/2014 7:37:01 AM PDT by maggief
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After reading his statement, he will invoke the fifth. Worked for someone else before.


49 posted on 06/11/2014 7:37:14 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: exit82

Now Hagel is pulling the Vietnam card. Disgraceful.


50 posted on 06/11/2014 7:37:30 AM PDT by kabar
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