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To: JimSEA

Microevolution is changes within a certain species, there is no change out of one specie to another. The better survivability which you speak of is the preexistence of the survival gene within the community, the poison kills off those without the genetic strain. Nothing new has actually been added, it has just been highlighted by the death of all the others. There is no mutation discovered anywhere which changes an organism into another organism.

I also noticed how you changed the subject to another one without really answering the first argument, and how you make ad hominum attacks. Also, he is not “my” Dr. Hamm, he is his own person and says what he wants to or believes in.

The fossil record is the most pathetic proof of anything to ever be foisted upon the public. The primitive birds you speak of were anything but primitive and had full operating bird characteristics such as avian lungs and breastbones. Using that type of chain of fossils is as stupid as the horse sequence where horses from different continents and time eras were put in a wholly imaginary sequence to “prove” their evolution. Keep believing what you want, but day after day, more scientists change from evolutionists to creationists as the real evidence piles against that belief.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 12:30:27 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

You have no understanding of fossils or of evolution. The accumulated results of so called microevolution often leads over time to new species. Of course no one mutation leads to another species. That’s an absurd thing to look for and even more foolish to hold up as disproving evolution. Each fossil, at the time of its death was a complete and single individual within a species. Isolated groups of a species, say horses, accumulate changes to the point where they are quite different from horses in other locations that haven’t had contact with the isolated group. Eventually the isolated group can accumulate enough changes that they become a different species (ie. horses and zebras or burros).

Fossils are the preserved remains of once living creatures. Most dead plants and animals leave nothing so fossilization is rare. Lucy died in shallow, relatively still water where she was covered quite quickly by silt. Thus, some forty percent of her bones fossilized. She was quite luckily found as her fossil eroded out and before it was scattered and lost. The odds against such a chain of events occurring are obviously great.

The fossil record is no more complete than a book that has had over half it’s pages torn out and lost. Relationships within and among species can be seen in these fossils, however. As more fossils are found, more can be learned.

A great many bird fossils have been recently found in China. They were preserved in a great detail because, when the birds died, they fell in a shallow fresh water lake. The birds, their feathers and, in some cases, their internal organs were preserved because they sank into an anoxic lake bottom and were covered by silt without much decay. These fossils, covered millions of years and were all before the dinosaur mass extinction.

From these fossils, we have learned that there were a great many different species of ancient birds, only a few of which survived the mass extinction. Many species were quite different from any known bird after the extinction event. They had different skeletal structures than any bird today or any fossil bird found afterwards.

The species from which today’s birds are descended were water fowl who fed in shallows.


18 posted on 06/05/2014 4:35:15 PM PDT by JimSEA
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