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Going Dark: The Internet Behind The Internet
NPR ^
| May 25, 2014
Posted on 05/26/2014 12:49:19 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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About fell out of my chair seeing this was a NPR article.
To: Mean Daddy
NSA planted article. “Hey, all you dissidents and terrorists ... over here, it’s safe.” Love, PT
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posted on
05/26/2014 12:58:58 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
To: Mean Daddy
What’s the status of us “giving” control of internet to Chinese?
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posted on
05/26/2014 1:06:54 PM PDT
by
CincyRichieRich
(Living in the midst of a silently coup.)
To: NonValueAdded
Edward Snowden’s going to release a list of Americans spied on...
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posted on
05/26/2014 1:10:32 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Someone explain why {the MSM} uses the term liberal to describe totalitarian sociopaths? BruceinOz)
To: Mean Daddy
Odd article. Why would any normal person want access to child porn, money laundering, or drug gangsters?
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posted on
05/26/2014 1:24:32 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Cicero
that's not what the article is about..
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posted on
05/26/2014 1:44:57 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: Mean Daddy
If I were going to use this, I’d get a cheap $350.00 Windows machine and use it for nothing else. Too much can go wrong.
To: Cicero
. . . normal person . . . .
That's the point. These aren't normal people. They are people looking for, or looking to provide, illicit, dangerous servics and products. People who will kill anyone you want for $5,000, or who will provide services to people with serious, deadly STDs because they also have serious, deadly STDs, are there. The drug cartels looking to find people they want to kill, are there, asking for help in finding their targets. People willing to do things or asking for things you don't even want to think about, are there.
I only know these things because of a report done by one of our local newscasts. I wouldn't go on the deeper internet for anything in the world.
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posted on
05/26/2014 2:25:12 PM PDT
by
righttackle44
(Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
To: righttackle44
What hath Al Gore wrought?
To: Mean Daddy; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ..
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posted on
05/26/2014 3:16:18 PM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Mean Daddy
The CIA and FBI are probably all over it
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posted on
05/26/2014 3:18:21 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
To: NonValueAdded
Nah! TOR networks are as secure as you can get.
The best analogy I can muster is like this:
The Internet as we know is like a four-course meal. You can pick your amuse bouche, you dabble in others; you pick your meat and cut and how you want it cooked; you pick your dessert. The difference is that there are menus all over (i.e. Google, Bing, Yahoo) that tell you what you’re eating, and the cooks in the back (i.e. anyone monitoring Internet traffic) know how to cook your meals and deliver the same food consistently.
TOR is like a soup. Every ingredient is thrown in, nothing is measured, it’s all by taste or “feel.” There could be too much salt in one batch, too little in another, and there are thousands of chefs just adding what they think would be good. There’s no consistency.
TOR traffic cannot be sniffed or deciphered the same as the Internet. You could get a couple of packets from a secret document, but you’ll never find all of it. You also don’t know from where it came nor to where it’s destined. The only entities that know are the sender and the receiver. That’s it.
TOR is an exciting but terrifying place. There’s a lot of stuff that’s just downright awful about it, but for the safety of my data and my privacy, I take the good with the bad.
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posted on
05/26/2014 3:55:00 PM PDT
by
rarestia
(It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
To: GeronL
TOR was developed by the Navy to securely send and receive traffic without revealing the sender. You can bet your bottom dollar that the government is out there using it, but I can tell you personally that they can’t decipher it all.
TOR traffic is over 70% of active web traffic at any time.
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posted on
05/26/2014 3:56:30 PM PDT
by
rarestia
(It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
To: libstripper
No, what you need is a virual machine and Tor.
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posted on
05/26/2014 4:11:42 PM PDT
by
The Antiyuppie
("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
To: rarestia
TOR networks are as secure as you can get. You forgot the /sarc tag, right?
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posted on
05/26/2014 4:27:58 PM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: righttackle44
These aren't normal people. They are people looking for, or looking to provide, illicit, dangerous servics and products. People who will kill anyone you want for $5,000, or who will provide services to people with serious, deadly STDs because they also have serious, deadly STDs, are there. The drug cartels looking to find people they want to kill, are there, asking for help in finding their targets. People willing to do things or asking for things you don't even want to think about, are there. In a related story: Govt. Workers Surf Port on Job
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posted on
05/26/2014 4:32:47 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: Cicero
Odd article. Why would any normal person want access to child porn, money laundering, or drug gangsters?There are people stupid enough to believe that 'the givernment' would not just ignore such a place, but suggest where you might find it.
Such people are ratings bonanza material for self-righteous liberal media whores like Geraldo, Dan Rather, Diane Sawyer, etc.
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posted on
05/26/2014 4:56:38 PM PDT
by
IncPen
(When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
05/26/2014 5:50:57 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Someone explain why {the MSM} uses the term liberal to describe totalitarian sociopaths? BruceinOz)
To: Cicero
Odd article. Why would any normal person want access to child porn, money laundering, or drug gangsters?Exactly.
I *AM* interested, however, in money porn, drug laundering, and child gangsters.
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posted on
05/26/2014 5:54:01 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
To: NonValueAdded
"NSA planted article. Hey, all you dissidents and terrorists ... over here, its safe. Love, PT" Interesting... Tor: Overview
Tor was originally designed, implemented, and deployed as a third-generation onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory. It was originally developed with the U.S. Navy in mind, for the primary purpose of protecting government communications. Today, it is used every day for a wide variety of purposes by normal people, the military, journalists, law enforcement officers, activists, and many others.
But also they claim:
Individuals use Tor to keep websites from tracking them and their family members, or to connect to news sites, instant messaging services, or the like when these are blocked by their local Internet providers. Tor's hidden services let users publish web sites and other services without needing to reveal the location of the site. Individuals also use Tor for socially sensitive communication: chat rooms and web forums for rape and abuse survivors, or people with illnesses. Journalists use Tor to communicate more safely with whistleblowers and dissidents. Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) use Tor to allow their workers to connect to their home website while they're in a foreign country, without notifying everybody nearby that they're working with that organization.
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posted on
05/26/2014 6:51:37 PM PDT
by
uncommonsense
(Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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