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1 posted on 05/22/2014 5:32:59 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 05/22/2014 5:33:18 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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Impeach. Arrest. Indict. Convict. Sentence. Blindfold. Cigarette.


3 posted on 05/22/2014 5:35:39 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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It seems clearer and clearer they had this video excuse all ready to go if they needed it, and they shot it off at the first sign of PR trouble.


5 posted on 05/22/2014 5:37:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Nachum

Who is Pastor Jon?


6 posted on 05/22/2014 5:37:47 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Nachum
Craven Bastards! May they all burn in Hell!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 05/22/2014 5:40:08 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Nachum

Very classy!

Abandon the young warriors on the rooftops, and the old ones in the hospital wards.

Call YouTube, huh?

Classy.


8 posted on 05/22/2014 5:41:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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I despise these people. They had this excuse ready to go before 9/11. If unrest or an attack occurred, blame the video.

I’ll bet half the hits on that video, BEFORE THE ATTACK EVEN OCCURED, were from Washington DC.

Completely disgusting.


9 posted on 05/22/2014 5:41:31 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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Something about Bengazi is still gnawing away at me:

The roof SEALs had been using a target designator, right? Doing that boosts risk against the operator —if properly equipped the enemy can see the beam. SEALs know that, so they had to at least to have been led to BELIEVE there was fire-support available or inbound —it’s very dubious they’d wave that thing around for fun in a firefight...

If GayMuzzie’s guys had SOME REASON to want the Bengazi resistance to suddenly stop, then it would be logical for top leadership do what they could to induce the SEALs to disclose their positions —to radio, “OK the zoomies are inbound so paint your targets for them...”

Then the originally planned path for abducting Stevens for subsequent swap would finally be CLEARED (by the muzzie mortar team).

THIS IS JUST A THEORY TO CONSIDER.

Maybe there was *more* than just an election-centric rescue failure.


13 posted on 05/22/2014 5:43:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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Just how in the world does one call YT? Do they have a red phone from the WH?????


14 posted on 05/22/2014 5:44:23 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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Next calls went out to MSNBC, Pizza Hut Delivery, and the Andres Air Force Base Golf Course.


18 posted on 05/22/2014 5:58:52 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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This smells like Hillary Clinton.


26 posted on 05/22/2014 6:24:44 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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Maybe they were checking to see if the movie excuse had been posted.... Getting lies in place is important for democrats...


30 posted on 05/22/2014 6:55:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (If dems will "death panel" our vets they'll damn sure death panel the rest of us...)
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As I said, Benghazi is simply Chappaquiddick on a geo political level. Instead of trying to save Ambassador Stevens (who may have been Obama’s partner sort of like Mary jo Kopechne was Ted Kennedy’s partner), the Obama administration’s first response was saving their political skins. The late Edward Kennedy gave his first priority to saving his political skin and the guy he endorsed, Barack Hussein Obama, is doing the same thing on an international level.


37 posted on 05/22/2014 7:46:23 PM PDT by Stepan12
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Who in the White House gave the order to call U-Tube, and why did they plant the false story of a Video?


38 posted on 05/22/2014 7:48:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Colonel Phil “Hands” Handley is credited with the highest speed air-to-air gun kill in the history of aerial combat. He flew operationally for all but 11 months of a 26-year career, in aircraft such as the F-86 Sabre, F-15 Eagle, and the C-130A Hercules. Additionally, he flew 275 combat missions during two tours in Southeast Asia in the F-4D and F-4E. His awards include 21 Air Medals, 3 Distinguished Flying Crosses, and the Silver Star.

Here is what Col. Handley wrote in response to Panetta and Dempsey’s claims there was no time to send help to Benghazi


Betrayal in Benghazi
Phil “Hands” Handley Colonel, USAF (Ret.)
The combat code of the US Military is that we don’t abandon our dead or wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter pilots don’t run off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot down, still alive and not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to get him or die trying.

Among America ‘s fighting forces, the calm, sure knowledge that such an irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with individual faith and personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often sustained hope in the face of terribly long odds.

The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEAL’s who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty.
Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in an attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility. The White House strategy, with the aid of a “lap dog” press has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming.

The contention “that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference” mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft is simply Bull Chit, regardless how many supposed “experts” the Administration trots out to make such an assertion.
The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don’t just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing.
The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.
Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him “Greg, we are under attack!” (his last words). Hicks immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing “Emergency Response Plan.”

At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to “stand down”. By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various “Command and Control Agencies” so everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going
At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.

So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really “was not available” what about this:
When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.

By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.

The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.

Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.

Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to return to Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away.

As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act — screw them. It is time our “leadership” get its priorities straight and put America’s interests first.

The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with “72 virgins” and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless P.O.S. terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to “tug” on Superman’s cape.

Of course all this depends upon a Commander In Chief more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm’s way than getting his crew rested for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. It also depends upon a Secretary of State who actually understood “What difference did it make?”, and a Secretary of Defense who was watching the feed from the drone and understood what the attack consisted of instead of making an immediate response that “One of the military tenants is that you don’t commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation.”

YGBSM!( You Gotta Be Chittin’ Me)
Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does “have their back” when the chips are down.

FOR THOSE OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THIS, DO ONE THING FOR ME AND FORWARD IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!! TO AVOID THIS HAPPENING AGAIN, WHOMEVER GAVE THE “STAND DOWN” ORDER NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED!


40 posted on 05/22/2014 8:07:09 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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A still-classified State Department e-mail says that one of the first responses from the White House to the Benghazi attack was to contact YouTube to warn of the “ramifications” of allowing the posting of an anti-Islamic video...

Well, that answers two of the fundamental questions up to now unanswered :

Who dreamed up the video red herring?
And from how high did it originate?

I will forever cherish the inevitable anal-cranial inversion the explanation of that might trigger!

Popcorn time!

48 posted on 05/22/2014 11:22:44 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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Thanks Nachum.

Benghazi ping.

Let Republicanprofessor know if you want on or off this ping list.


51 posted on 05/23/2014 6:24:23 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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All a plan to swap Amb. Stevens for the blind sheik.
62 posted on 05/23/2014 8:12:27 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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