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To: expat_panama

No fiscal cliff type of crisis looming. China is a potential drag if they have a hard landing. Their government fueled multi-bubbles are going to burst and it will drag on the global economy.

I wouldn’t define the “growth” issue as inequality. But you’ve pointed out that real median incomes have declined. But if you look at the top 10% they have increased and the bottom 90% have fallen faster. The top 10% can’t drive consumer spending for long. But the problem is a lack of growth. Not “inequality.”


23 posted on 05/14/2014 11:27:46 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Roubini sees a “secular stagnation in advanced economies,” thanks in part to income inequality. Right now companies are rich but they’re not spending any of that money on capital expenditures. They don’t see the demand.  Why? Because of income equality.

We agree that's wrong, that income inequality is good, and that we want people to be different.

No fiscal cliff type of crisis looming.

It may not be looming in the ultra left press we're subjected to, but lack of perception will do nothing to let the nation avoid getting stuck with $trillions in interest outlays brought about by years of excessive and profligate federal spending.

24 posted on 05/14/2014 12:35:56 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch
....your definition of “income inequality” is simplified. There will always be differences. The issue is when a small portion of those earners have income increasing significantly and the largest portion are seeing incomes decline, it’s going to cause problems...

Nobody's offered a new definition here so the words "income inequality" have to mean what they mean.  We want it and we don't want income equality.

The study of fixed exclusive income strata however raises other issues.  You raised the question of whether America's worse off if average incomes increase while "the largest portion are seeing incomes decline".  We do not know if this is the case --what we know is that the Census Br says real median incomes are less than they were 8 years ago.  Even if they're correct it may not be the result of declining incomes for most people but rather the result of new entrants to the labor force from say, demographics or immigration.  We don't know, and we can't say something we don't know is bad enough to require raising taxes.

Income castes are bad where lower castes are not allowed upward mobility.  That's not the case in the US as most Americans are able to rise up through quintiles and one out of eight Americans are eventually able to make it to the infamous "one percent" that the occupy folks want to murder.  What we do want is (like you sad) is economic growth --an expanding economy and rising productivity-- and we're together on the idea that "growth is decidedly insufficient due to the regulatory and fiscal environment".  mho is that at its core the main obstacle we face is a class warfare borne of envy.

27 posted on 05/14/2014 3:26:16 PM PDT by expat_panama
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