"...the illegal and unconstitutional actions by the non-elected agencies that have grown like mushrooms to effect the destruction of America"
You say that because you are a kooky posse comitatus guy who has no earthly idea how the govt works.
Congress created the Grazing Division to manage the grazing lands and a few years later the name was changed to the US Grazing Service which would later be merged with the General Land Office to create the BLM. It all changed in 1976 when Congress enacted FPLMA and told BLM to manage the lands for multi-use.
Which means managed for ATV, horseback, hikers, campers boaters, hunters, target shooters, fishermen, cattle, sheep, wild horses, burros, oil and gas, coal, gold, silver, Indians, lands that Congress sets aside; parks, forests, monuments, endangered and threatened species, and the list goes on.
So are these ATVers getting their share of use of these lands? They were shut out of Recapture canyon for breaking the regs. But there are 2800 miles of ATV trails close by. And if you go to the ATV Utah website, you see that is a lot available for ATVers.
But the ATVers are gonna bitch, moan, complain, threaten to kill people, and have a revolution if the BLM doesn't give more land to tear up. Squeeky wheel gets the grease.
The grazers complain about the wild horses. The horse lovers complain about the grazers. The grazers complain about the tortoise and the enviros complain about the grazers. Everybody complains.
In your ignorance, you complain about BLM, but Congress enacted FLPMA and the endangered species act, and the Wild Horse Act
If you don't like the way BLM is doing it, or think that someone is getting more use of the land than you are you can get congress to amend the act. And if that doesn't work you can go to court and get the judges to change it.
But sometimes that doesn't work. Bundy lost in court numerous times so he called in the militia and threatened to kill BLM agents and their round-up contractor.
It’s kind of you to offer me a 10-1 bet but I will decline. People acting responsibly rarely show off their adult behavior.
This comment ‘You say that because you are a kooky posse comitatus guy who has no earthly idea how the govt works. ‘ tells me you either don’t read past huffington post or are embedded deep in the liberal progressive agenda.
BLM is not the only agency that does not need an armed force. Neither does NOAA, IRS, EPA or any other non-sworn law enforcement agency. I will not attempt to educate you on why these quasi-cops and gear queers have proliferated. If you want to know, a little reading beyond your norm will serve you well.
As far BLM’s innocuous behavior; the many ranchers who have been forced out of ranching by the ruinous fees and regulations imposed arbitrarily by these non-elected agencies have not been silent, just not news-worthy. Look up Wayne Gage or many of the other ranchers who have had well documented and terrible experiences with these agencies.
The tortoise that was the ‘supposed’ reason for initially attacking Mr. Bundy’s ranch is not endangered by any measure. So much so that the BLM was killing them by the hundreds just last year.
The tortoise thrives where the cattle are because of a symbiotic relationship. The land thrives where cattle are because of brush removal and fertilization. All of these facts are easily discovered with minor searching, which you have demonstrated you are good at doing.
The amusing but painfully predictable result of a little investigative journalism showed that the real reason for the entire affair was that Mr. Bundy inconveniently was using land promised to Chinese investors by Sen. Reid. Bundy had to be removed. The Reid son was the go-between with the Chinese and a Reid staffer became the head of the BLM just weeks before the whole affair.
It all stinks to high heaven.
Your quite outrageous statement here ‘But sometimes that doesn’t work. Bundy lost in court numerous times so he called in the militia and threatened to kill BLM agents and their round-up contractor.’ requires a link to prove that Mr. Bundy A: called in the militia and B; any of those American citizens threatened to kill any BLM or other law enforcement officer in the stand off.
In fact it is well documented by a television reporter on the scene with a camera that it was the BLM and their contractors the provided the death threats and overt pointed weapons.
I saw one picture (from several angles making it look like more than one) of one person apparently aiming a rifle through a concrete bridge guard. There is no mention of who he was aiming at. It could have easily been from that position that person was a BLM contractor to shoot any woman or child in the protest group to spark the gunfight.
There is ample evidence that a gunfight was the expected and desired end result of the entire stand off. I am sure it was not desired by the many NV LE without body armor or long guns out in the heat. No doubt a few sacrifices had to be made.
The sheriff negotiated with the BLM to leave the area, no one told the agents guarding the cattle but the Bundy sons were told and they went to get their cattle.
This was probably the tensest moment of the entire affair. No doubt the protesters disappointed the government because all of them behaved with perfect decorum despite being told by the BLM agents that the BLM had authorization to fire on them.
Ben, get your head screwed on right and start reading up on these issues from more than one side. You will be a happier person for it.