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Supreme Court: Opening prayers at council meetings constitutional
Fox News ^ | May 5 2014 | Fox News

Posted on 05/05/2014 9:59:41 AM PDT by PoloSec

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To: loveliberty2

They aren’t very “progressive” in my opinion if they think government needs to police speech.


21 posted on 05/05/2014 12:32:20 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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To: Fuzz

“You would be okay with town council meetings opening with an Islamic call to prayer asking Allah to bless the meeting?”

I wouldn’t like it, but I respect their right to pray to Allah. Back when I was agnostic, I listened respectfully during public prayers, like when I was in the USAF and social events were often started with prayer. If I could do that as an agnostic, I could also do that for Islam.

Again, that doesn’t mean I like Islam, and Muslims must not be allowed to substitute shariah for our constitutionally enumerated freedoms. However, I respect the right of a Muslim majority community in America to practice their religion in the public square so long as no one’s rights are oppressed. Islam would be freely practiced but it would have to be kept in a very tight box of American liberty.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 12:39:48 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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To: Beagle8U

“I wouldn’t, I’d pass gas and make Oinking sounds until they left.”

You get what you give in this world. I think the civil society is worth preserving—what little of it is left.


23 posted on 05/05/2014 12:41:13 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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Exactly! That's why the word "so-called" should precede such a designation. Actually, the ideas, policies and views are "regressive," and inevitably lead to government-over-people coercive control.

Several years ago, a business man by the name of James R. Evans, in his book, "America's Choice: Twilight's Last Gleaming or Dawn's Early Light," suggested 7 simple principles which we might consider as we watch the President and so-called "progressives" attempt to enslave us through legislation and Executive Orders.

"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?

"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?

"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?

"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?

"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'

"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.

"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**

**7 principles drawn from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice," and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?"


24 posted on 05/05/2014 1:21:50 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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