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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Utterly and completely absurd. The people should decide. Like it or not, it is THEIR State, their Nation. This is a power play by the Elite, pure and simple. Wanna see a quick, permanent and immediate end to the Tea party? This is it.

Sometimes those that revere the Constitution lead the battle to destroy it.


3 posted on 05/05/2014 7:07:17 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

Why don’t you try actually reading the Constitution sometime. The 17th is an abomination.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 7:14:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I have to disagree. When the Senate changed to popular election, it was a watershed moment for the states losing power to the Fed-monster. The Senators were previously accountable to the state government to protect their interests. Now it’s unfettered Federal power.


10 posted on 05/05/2014 7:18:06 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: RIghtwardHo
Sometimes those that revere the Constitution lead the battle to destroy it.

Sometimes idiots have no idea what they are talking about.

The founders did not give us a pure democracy because democracy always devolves to mob rule.

The only way to keep the feral government in check is to assure that the states are strong enough to keep the feral government from usurping powers beyond those enumerated to it. The senate was meant to be composed of representatives chosen by the state legislatures. The House was meant to be elected directly by the people.

No one part is supposed to be able to dictate to the others.

21 posted on 05/05/2014 7:41:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Disagree.

Senators were to represent the states hence their appointment by state legislatures until the 17th amendment was ratified.

As is pointed out, Senators do not represent the States as was the explicit purpose of the unamended constitution.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 7:44:00 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Totally disagree with you.....


24 posted on 05/05/2014 7:46:42 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

The structure of the design of our legislative system of government was to give power to the people in the lower house (Representatives were elected by the people) and power to the States (Senators were selected by the States). You don’t like the Electoral College and now you don’t like States having power in the legislative system. Are you really sure you LIKE the Constitution?


27 posted on 05/05/2014 7:48:20 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Eclipse, the sequel to Bright Horizons is out! Get it now!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Like the people elected Obama?


30 posted on 05/05/2014 7:54:20 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Not sure what you mean here but the 17th amendment needs to be repealed not worked around. Repealing the 17th would go a long way to correcting the problems we have in America today. It is the only way to re-establish state representation in the Federal Government.


33 posted on 05/05/2014 8:02:32 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I would suggest you do some reading on the reasoning behind the original way the Senate was seated. Thomas Jefferson addresses why they sett things up the way they did in the Federalist Papers.

I agree with Jefferson on this one, and would like to see a full repeal of the 17th.

38 posted on 05/05/2014 9:51:32 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: RIghtwardHo
"Utterly and completely absurd. The people should decide."

The people WOULD decide.!! Through participation of election of their state legislature and Governor...

Politics, like money, is BEST kept as local as possible.!!

68 posted on 05/10/2014 5:34:13 AM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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