Posted on 04/28/2014 12:49:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
... And now, a bill by Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, boosting today's $7.25 hourly minimum in three steps until it hits $10.10 as soon as 2016. His minimum wage bill is widely expected to join that list Wednesday, when the Senate seems poised to vote on it. Though it should win backing from nearly all of the 53 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents, few if any Republicans are expected to join them, leaving them shy of the needed 60 votes. ...
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What the Republicans should do, is use this as an opportunity to fix the economy. They should tie an import tariff bill to this. Raise the import tariffs in steps until the percent of working age that are working drops below a threshold. And drop the income tax by the amount of the import tariff.
Besides, it would be interesting to see the democrat response if the Republicans voted for it.
Make it $100.00 per hour. Then they will all be rich!
Don’t misunderstand, I’m not in favor of raising minimum wages in a period of high unemployment. But restoring the import tariffs and cutting the income taxes would do far more for employment than the harm done by minimum wages.
Don’t misunderstand, I’m not in favor of raising minimum wages in a period of high unemployment. But restoring the import tariffs and cutting the income taxes would do far more for employment than the harm done by minimum wages.
Not so fast. There’s still time for McConnell to sell out conservatives on this.
But the dimocrats control the senate...and can pass whatever they want without one repubican vote...Just like odumbocare...they had the stomach for that then, why not this now. Besides, I’m sure there are one or two rino’s that would love to give hairy reed a good ol’e fashioned leg humping.
I believe we should eliminate import taxes, especially when it comes to dollars. Right now, that is the single greatest obstacle to economic growth.
No, it’s not the government’s business to push me to buy from domestic rather than foreign companies through tariffs. Furthermore, tariffs we impose will be met by tariffs by other countries on our exporters, resulting in little or no net gain in jobs here.
Of course that is the government’s business. America pursued an aggressive policy of tariffs to build up domestic industry from the founding until a few decades ago.
There is no right to buy foreign goods. That’s a ridiculous idea and a good example of the kind of selfish, anti-patriotic nonsense that has infected modern conservatism and rendered it impotent.
If you have a problem with that, take it up with Ben Franklin and George Washington.
I think I have the right to spend my money as I please. I guess we will not reach agreement about that.
Beware of politicking from federal politicians concerning the so-called national minimum wage, especially in an election year.
More specifically, with the exception of the federal entities indicated in the Constitution’s Clauses 16 & 17 of Section 8 of Article I as examples, entities under the exclusive legislative control of Congress, the states have never delegated to the feds, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate minimum or overtime wages for the nation. Only the states have the 10th Amendment-protected state power to regulate intrastate labor wages.
Corrupt federal politicians foster talk of higher federal minimum wage to buy votes from low-information voters who have never been taught the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.
Patriots need to learn that they have to check all “promises” made by federal politicians against Congress’s Section 8-limited powers to make sure that Congress actually has the state-delegated power to make a particular promise.
Increasing the minimum wage has high support among Americans. Yet, the GOP in the middle of an election year, won't support an increase. HOWEVER, the unpopular comprehensive immigration reform (code for amnesty without conditions)is not popular at all amount all Americans. YET, the GOP tells us that it is essential for the GOP's electoral survival that we pass immigration reform.
Supreme Court Declares Minimum Wage Constitutional
Now I know you disagree with the SCOTUS decision, but it's SCOTUS not you that has the authority to decide what is constitutional. And it's been the law of the land for over 70 years.
So instead of whining about loss enumerated rights, that aren't ever going to be restored by whining, you need a plan. That plan can be as simply as getting Congress to overturn the FLSA. Or as complex as getting a constitutional amendment to limit the commerce clause. Good luck with either.
Whining about something that's been the law of the land for 70 years is not going to win votes.
I’m sure all of the Karl Rove types are advising them to punt on this.
If imports didn't dwarf our exports, you might have an argument. But with a trade deficit as large as ours, there will be a net gain even if a trade war erupts.
China for example doesn't let the dollars flow back to buy trade goods for it's people. It uses it to buy our equities and our stock. Effectively causing us to liquidate ownership of America in exchange for their cheap imports.
Finally, the U.S. taxes on domestic producers are in excess of 10%. But the tariffs are on foreign producers are on average 1%. Is it government's job to provide a tax incentive to American companies to offshore?
If imports didn't dwarf our exports, you might have an argument. But with a trade deficit as large as ours, there will be a net gain even if a trade war erupts.
China for example doesn't let the dollars flow back to buy trade goods for it's people. It uses it to buy our equities and our stock. Effectively causing us to liquidate ownership of America in exchange for their cheap imports.
Finally, the U.S. taxes on domestic producers are in excess of 10%. But the tariffs are on foreign producers are on average 1%. Is it government's job to provide a tax incentive to American companies to offshore?
DannyTN, would you please tell me the main reason that the Founding States drafted the federal Constitution?
Next, and with all due respect DannyTN, since you evidently regard how corrupt justices interpret the Constitution as more important than what you can read with your own eyeballs, please note the following. When FDR's activist justices decided cases like US v. Darby and the later Wickard v. Filburn in the early 1940s, cases which tested the limits of Congress's Commerce Clause powers (Clause 3 of Article 8 of Article I) they wrongly ignored that the Supreme Court had historically clarified that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerse.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added]” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
So while you say that FDR's puppet justices said yes to federal minimum wage in U.S. v. Darby, I say the Court had previously clarified in broad terms that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate any aspect of intrastate commerce, including wages, in Gibbons v. Ogden. And you can't show me an amendment to the Constitution after the Court decided Gibbons which reasonably shows that FDR's puppet justices could justify their decision in Darby.
In other words, FDR's justices scandalously knocked down constitutional limits on Congress's powers with a thousand "razor cuts."
The bottom line is that you need to question all Supreme Court decisions made after FDR "nuked" the Supreme Court with activist justices, particularly in cases where the Supremes tested the limits of Congress's Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
I could waste my time questioning it. But it would do no good. It's settled law, and new supreme court justices are not going to overturn it.
You can overturn the minimum wage laws just by getting congress and a president to agree to repeal the FLSA. But it's been 70 years and nobody even talks about repealing it. The talk is all about whether or not they should increase it.
Even conservative justices wouldn't overturn it, because there is simply too many federal programs that are outside of the enumerated powers listed in the 10th. The impact on the country would be too large.
If you want to restore the enumerated powers, you have to eviscerate the commerce clause. But no justice would support your cause unless you came up with a plan for all of the programs that are outside the 10th. You'd have to have legislation that specifically addresses each program and either grants federal authority to continue or provides a plan to delegate it to the states.
That's the only way you'd ever get even a bench full of ultra conservative justices to overturn the precedents that have been set. Until you do that, you're just so much noise on the wind.
You're hoping the 10th will limit the Federal government the way you want. But your complaint without a plan is not viable, and never will be. So you're just wasting people's time.
You seem to not understand the difference between legislative and judicial powers.
You don't seem to understand reality. You're living in fantasy land. In what world, did the judiciary treat the constitution the way you think it should have?
In any event, I think that SCOTUS made it's case that there was a valid interstate reason behind a federal minimum wage law.
It still comes back to whining about enumerated powers will accomplish nothing, nada, zilch, zero. Because even if you managed to pack the court with ultra conservative candidates, they still wouldn't touch the precedents that have been made unless there was a comprehensive plan to restore enumerated powers that had made it through the legislature.
We can't even get a conservative on the GOP ticket. And you want to overturn over 100 years of precedents, with an ultra strict interpretation of the 10th that ignores the commerce clause.
I'm focused on solutions that have a chance. We're not going to be able to overturn the minimum wage. But we could restore American industry by restoring the import tariffs that our founding fathers put in place. And one way to do that is attach it to the minimum wage law. Bring back American industry and reduce immigration and demand for labor will raise wages making the minimum wage law moot.
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