Skip to comments.Ukraine official says he fears Russian invasion
Posted on 04/25/2014 4:10:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Ukraine's deputy foreign minister said Friday he fears an imminent Russian invasion.
"We have the information we are in danger," Danylo Lubkivsky told reporters at the United Nations.
He spoke as an official in Ukraine confirmed that pro-Russian forces had detained a team of military observers with the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The official said the team would be released after further investigation.
Lubkivsky said 20 members had been taken and called it shocking and unprecedented. "We demand to release hostages," he said.
Tensions have spiked as Russia increases military exercises along the Ukraine border. Lubkivsky called it a "very dangerous development" and demanded that Russia withdraw its troops.
"We are going to protect our motherland against any invasion," Lubkivsky said. "We call on the Russians to stop this madness."
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Why aren’t these coup temporary government officials talking about keeping calm until the election instead of raising fears of war? (unless they don’t want an election to happen)
You blame them for raising fears of war after Russia just annexed part of their country and is actively supporting separatists taking over towns, government buildings, etc, in the Eastern half of their country.
And how do you propose this "coup temporary government" hold an election with Russians actively destabilizing the Eastern portion of their nation in order to make sure that such an election can't happen. The Russians know their stooges in the Ukraine are going to lose very badly this time around, which means a new government will take power that embraces the West like none before it.
You better believe these "coup temporary government officials" have a good reason to be worried and raise the alarm.
Well,when tens of thousands of Russian troops are publicly conducting ‘military exercises’ on the border, its probably fairer to say that there were already fears of war. Especially when ‘military exercises’ also immediately preceded the occupation of Crimea.
Said fears probably had more to do with the military exercises than the warnings of the Maidan government.
A coup is a coup...and right now, it should be considered a military coup...because they brought out their machinery and offer nothing else.
The ethnic Russians in Ukraine are tired of being second best.
Oh the Putin crazies aka trolls are out.
Its a coup.
BS blah blah.
Putin has a right to invade .....
Your a wack job cheering on a KGB monster. to invade.
So are you another Ametica hating Putin groupie ?.
Oh another Putin troll has arrived on schedule.
So you Hate the US and love the KGB.
Go troll away
I had no idea Leftist trolls like you from the DU cared !
These are the Putin groupie trolls .
They are DU nutters and Paulbots plus Paid Putin trolls.
They love a KGB murderous tyrant.
Sacajaweau isn't a troll from DU.
The situation in Ukraine is quite complicated and differing opinions are to be expected.
That said, the weakness of Obama, Biden, and Kerry most certainly made matters worse.
Are you on their side...I doubt it.
Read what I wrote. Ukraine needs to have that election. It seems that most of the people are trying to keep calm and secure.
Read the trolls posts.
Always arrives to cheer on the Pro THUG Putin posts.
Putin is a Thug who was over the torture and murder of Germans fleeing East Germany.
If you did not witness the carnage done by Putin and his pals at the KGB .
The trolls posts justifying his actions.
Prove me wrong.
Do you really think with a huge open border with an enemy for five hundred years bearing down on you. Hello!
Its election time .
Lord have you ever volunteer at a federal election?
Did you witness this carnage? Not saying it didn't happen...but did you witness it?
And are you now supporting Obama?
I prefer Putin's strength to Obama's weakness. I don't blame Putin for kicking sand in Obama's face. Obama deserves it.
I love America, but Obama is killing it. I prefer anyone over Obama...but that won't be Putin.
Putin knows that, in the long run, he will not be able to absorb Ukraine. He's just making trouble because Obama is weak. He is taking what he can get while the Democrats are still in power. And who can blame him. At best, he will carve out a little of Eastern Ukraine. Nothing there of value...just face.
He knows, soon, this game will be up...and we will have another strong Republican in the WH (like Cruz).
The Russian Air Force going over the border should be a hint—War is coming and fast—better hope Putin is only going for a few provinces and not the whole nation.
~Why arent these coup temporary government officials talking about keeping calm until the election instead of raising fears of war? (unless they dont want an election to happen~
An idea is to instill the fear of Russian military, then declare any popular opposition Russian agents.
All by the former Georgian president Saakashvili’s book.
He even ordered a fake live coverage of Russian invasion at the time right on the eve of elections, featuring opposition candidates collaborating with invading forces. Thousands has fled their homes and dozens had a heart attacks before it was a warning that the show is just ‘a possible scenario’.
my family lived in West Berlin in the 80s.
The Soviet KGB were everywhere .
Putin is a sociopath.
The KGB did not hire anyone who wasn’t .
Reading these crazies and their moronic statements is an insult to ones intelligence.
You apparently have a more indepth and personal knowledge of this situation.
Just a suggestion but perhaps your brother and sister freepers might benefit from your knowledge.
We are idiots (me most of all) on one subject or another.
Help us out here by setting us straight.
You and I know that most if not all real Freepers want to do the right thing.
Your knowledge and insight re: this situation are rare hereabouts.
Give us a helping hand.
Sorry for sounding so obsequious. But we need to pull together, not pull apart.
Putin and his stooges don’t want free elections in Ukraine because they would lose bad. So instead they send the FSB in to astroturf mayhem in Ukraine. Then they demand a stacked deck: “minority rights” for Ukraine that nobody in Russia gets.
Al Qaeda in Ukraine isn’t winning any votes for Team KGB with all this kidnapping and murdering. Putin has badly overplayed his hand in E. Ukraine.
You summed it up nicely.
Its a bad situation for freedom loving folks in Ukraine with your historic enemy lurking ready to pounce.
Ethnic Russians represent a majority in three eastern Ukraine provinces. They would support independence and, likely, integration into the Russian Federation. Russian tactical support would just be icing on the cake. Putin is playing from popular, demographic strength.
....”Ukraine confirmed that pro-Russian forces had detained a team of military observers with the OSCE in Europe.”...
The team they have was and is not OSCE ‘monitors’ but a bilateral Military verification team under the control of Germany... sent under terms of Vienna Document 2011... led by Germans and composed of 8 members 4 Germans, 1 Czech, 1 Danish, 1 Polish, 1 Swedish....
Even OSCE says those in Sloviansk are NOT OSCE monitors but army people sent by EU/Ger/Kiev under Vienna Agreement....but they wrote on the vehicle OSCE.
He's wrong about this team anyway...they weren't OCSE representatives rather a team under Germany's Lead...organized by Berlin and Keiv sitting Government....
The peoples Mayor said clearly that Ukrainian military would not be welcome, only OSCE “observers”...there were 5 Ukrainian military personnel in the vehicle and why they were held. You know at some point the US/EU/nato and Kiev Gov need to hear what these people are saying instead of trying to push the envelope as they're doing....makes me wonder who is really hoping this moves to war.
All one has to do is look how Russia took Crimea...that is a far cry from previous attempts in Chechnya and other Russian wars..... Even our military leaders recognized clearly that Russia has changed their entire military approach....you would see this if you listened to the military leaders speak about this.
Certainly they attempt a profile look-see at Putin's history. and as much some of the hard-liners which remain in Putins cabinet etc. But most of those were weeded out over the years.
Further the International Community would not have included Putin in International affairs as they have for several years now....oil comes into play as well as World Trade issues that weren't there 23 yrs ago...this is a different time in History altogether.
Putin's desire for Russia is no different than the EU/NATO/US alliance for World Power. And up until the Ukraine issue Putin really didn't squawk much about the Baltics going with the Eu .....but he has time and again warned all not to push that envelope...especially regarding Ukraine.
So they did and here we are.....
And if you think the US isn't responsible for this...then take a look how they are bartering US land to China.....land which they acquire in order to barter with...thus you see the Bundy issue today.
I think you are wrong to assume people, who read this situation from the parties involved and what they are doing TODAY, as being for or against either side...though most of us are surely for the US if push comes to shove....which is why most Americans are pushing back that we don't want this Ukraine issue on our plate.....
I'm personally livid that the US has been doing this same type of antics all over the world in order to bring even our own nation under the control of the EU “unelected” Parliament and whatever it will become when this is all set as they want it....and they only go after nations leaders who are not co-operating with their Global Agenda.
You would do all Patriots on FR a great service by stop calling any, who have spent time and effort to find the truth in this situation, various names and the treasonous remarks that you and others tumble out on these threads.
Either we are a “FREE-REPUBLIC” here on FR where we can voice opinions and differ, in order to debate and draw reasonable conclusions....even if we still disagree...or we've lost one of the last places we are indeed free to be so.
I don't like being called a Putinista..nor a traitor...and I doubt any others are either. Sooner or later I will hand it right back to those who continue to do so....for you are trampling on the very freedoms we have and enjoy here....to seek and find the truth even if we may not like what we find.
Well, I guess I'm a paid Putin troll too since I don't see any pressing American strategic interest in getting involved in Ukraine, with which we have no treaty relationship. Moreover, we don't have the military, economic, or political power anymore to do anything about it. It's a European problem, so let them deal with it. Remember when they demanded that "Yankee go home?" Well, they got what they wanted. Now let them reap the consequences.
We have a far bigger problem with the semi bloodless commie dictator that currently occupies the White Hut.
I do not trust the military after zer0 removed real American general officers and the leftist officers and fag lovers took over.
I love America and want to Take Her Back. I will not back any new military actions by the communist buttwad in Washington. He might as well be Castro or Stalin.
Putin is playing from popular, demographic strength.
You have your facts wrong. There have been polls showing only 1/3 of the people in E. Ukraine supported the idea of joining Russia. After all the terrorism by pro-Russians it’s has to be even less. There was a separatist rally today in Kharkiv and hardly anybody showed up. The people in E. Ukraine are definitely unhappy but there is simply no evidence a majority want to join Russia. They are voting with their feet now and staying out of the streets.
Putin does not have popular support in E. Ukraine and his only option left is invasion. Economic warfare will just piss off the Germans and his potential support base in E. Ukraine.
you got it backward........
Putin has 80% support in Russia
I totally agree with your opinion. Obama is no CIC and his actions get soldiers dead.
Putin has 80% support in Russia
What does that have to do with Ukraine? Putin is figuring out now that E. Ukraine is not Russia. He isn’t superman and his plan in falling apart.
There is no genuine popular uprising in E. Ukraine. Had their been the weak Kiev Junta would have been easily ejected. They don’t even have motor oil or food for their army. This should be a simple task to remove the central authorities. That it hasn’t happened shows that what we a seeing is an astroturfed uprising performed by Russian agents.
That doesn’t really matter. Support at home keeps him in power. He has the Crimea. Everything beyond that is gravy
The Russian economy is tanking due to Putin’s adventures. Putting gravy on a stinkburger doesn’t make it taste any better.
you omit time from your equation
The problem is insignificant compared to the prize of Crimea. Time will allow the economic problem to be resolved away.
Here’s the deal for now. Putin will not take eastern ukraine and the dithering west will get to claim credit. Meanwhile Crimea is forgotten and Putin wins
win: win all around
The Obama/Soros/sodomite EU firebomb throwing neo-Nazi coup in Kiev have poked the Bear and now they are crying home to momma. Somebody call the wha-wha-whamublance.
When simply blaming Soros is not enough.
LOL—I swear, if these people are so certain about what Soros does, and where he puts his money to such great success, one would think they’d simply mimic his technique and make millions.
How many times are you Putinists going to repeat the lie that there was a coup in Ukraine? Do you think if you repeat it often enough it will become true? The Interim government of Ukraine is the Ukrainian Rada that was democratically elected. The head of state fled the country to a foreign enemy after resigning (though he denies resigning), and the Ukrainian rada, including his own political party, denounced him for his unconstitutional abuses, his treason, his kidnapping and abuses against Ukrainians, and his shooting and murder of them, and took constitutional action to prepare for a new election.
Please stop spreading this lie from the hell hole of the Kremlin!
When is FR going to zot you? The Maidan included ethnic Russian brigades, Ukrainians, Jews, and all sorts of people, from all over Ukraine. Poll after poll in the East show support for a united Ukraine and freedom from Russia. If the Russians do not invade prior to the vote, the East and South will vote overwhelmingly against Russia. And that's why these drunks and thieves and killers, none elected, are trying to hold the East hostage with the support of Russian GRU.
The Kremlin has near complete control over the media and is even passing tighter laws on internet bloggers, to silence them the way the Chicoms silence their people. During the last election, voter apathy in Russia was extreme, and there is evidence of extensive voter fraud in favor of Putin. Hence why Alex Jones and other Kremlin tools were accusing the election monitors of being part of a NWO plot. They want everyone to think that Putin has 100 percent support.
I seriously doubt that 80 percent of the Russian people support an individual who routinely has his opponents in Russian media, government, or dissident movements, beaten and murdered.
This is what they want you to believe because their position is based upon a NWO-Alex Jones conspiracy, and you can't prove a premise like that among rational human beings. There was no coup in Ukraine, and these goobers cannot prove any of their claims, which they repeat constantly anyway.
We have zips in the wire,boys and girls.As Bugs Bunny would say,having read this tripe..."what a maroon!"
Capt. Harris: Be advised. We’ve got zips in the wire down here.
Phantom Pilot: Roger your last, Bravo Six. Can’t run it any closer. We’re hot to trot and packing snake and nape, but we’re bingo on fuel.
Capt. Harris: For the record, it’s my call. Dump everything you’ve got left on my pos. I say again, expend all remaining in my perimeter. It’s a lovely “.” war. Bravo Six out.
Phantom Pilot: Roger your last, Bravo Six. We copy. It’s your call. Get them all in their holes down there. Hang tough, Bravo Six. We’re coming cocked for treetops.
I believe that was Captain Dale Dye, in Platoon.
Yes it was.He played "Captain Harris" in Platoon and,IIRC,was also a technical adviser to the producer and/or director of the film.He also played one of General Marshall's aides in Private Ryan.
I can’t imagine these days Captain Dye would have any kind words for Oliver Stone.
And of course, he was Colonel Sink in Band of Brothers.
He actually ran a boot camp that all of the actors in Band of Brothers had to go through before the actual filming started.
Zips in wire here and zips in wire there. Platoon it is.
Mrs FE’s son is at Pendleton right now, unfortunately on MRP due to double fractured tibia. He is healing and will slip into the next Kilo Company graduation schedule. Mrs FE is having a tough time with it; me, I know he is gaining wisdom and bravery.