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To: PapaNew

Historical facts about the ownership of the land in question

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848 - Article II section 2 treaty) transfer ownership of the land from Mexico to the US

Nevada admitted as a state to the union (1864). Congress requires that the state ceded control of “unappropriated public lands” to the US Government. Nevada includes in their constitution this concession to the government.

The lands are part of what is called the Lake Mead National Recreation area and includes a number of buildings including dock-yards, and other needful buildings as listed in Article I section 8 under the enumerated powers of Congress.


34 posted on 04/25/2014 3:37:12 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
Appreciate the input.

Article I Section 8 - well you're probably referring to the commerce clause which has become blank check for the feds. But I don't buy that becasue the Constitution in no way, shape, or form gives the feds a blank check.

So I think it would be worth the states to go through all these federal lands and get specific constitutional grounds for the feds continued ownership. I think the feds own way too much land.

36 posted on 04/25/2014 3:52:43 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: taxcontrol

The Resolution of 1780, “the federal trust respecting public lands obligated the united States to extinguish both their governmental jurisdiction and their title to land that achieved statehood.”

In the Constitutional Convention of 1787, The Charter of Liberty contained these words, “The new Federal Government is an agent serving the states.”, “The delegated powers are few and defined”, “All powers not listed are retained by the states or the people”, “The Resolution of 1780 formed the basis upon which Congress was required to dispose of territorial and public lands”, “All laws shall be made by the Congress of the United States”. (not agency bureaucrats!)

That should be sufficient for you to determine who all public lands belong to, hint - NOT the Federal Government!

Articles of Confederation, Article VI, clause 1 All engagements entered into before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. In Article IX “... no State shall be deprived of territory for the benefit of the United States.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3148136/posts?page=15#15


43 posted on 04/25/2014 4:15:10 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: taxcontrol
"The lands are part of what is called the Lake Mead National Recreation area and includes a number of buildings including dock-yards, and other needful buildings as listed in Article I section 8 under the enumerated powers of Congress."

It's good to know where you stand.

156 posted on 04/28/2014 1:00:00 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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