I haven’t seen too many liberals calling for military action at all. I’ve seen most of the leftist agree with Obama’s weak, feckless foreign policy. They justify and excuse it.
The hawks on this seem to be the McCain’s and Graham’s of the world. Same people that were most excited about bombing Syria.
Much as I don’t particularly care for McCain or Lindsey, I do find myself on the hawkish side of foreign and defense policy, and it concerns me that this libertarian isolationist streak is developing within the party. I am not so sure letting Russia gobble up parts of Ukraine is, regardless of whether you think the coup govt in Kiev is good or bad, a very good idea.
I also don’t believe Russia is really particularly strong. I think Putin is playing a masterful hand with a pair of two’s. They’ve upgraded their military and perhaps 20% of it is 1st world now, but I am not even convinced they could hold any part Ukraine outside of the immediate east.
I think Putin is a thug and has once again pulled the Russian people away from any chance they had for a workable democracy. I wouldn’t mind finding a way to bloody his nose here. If that takes sending weapons to Ukraine, I’d consider it - especially if Russia went for the whole enchilada (all of Ukraine). I think outside the east (and even in parts of the east), the Ukrainians would bleed Russia via guerrilla/partisan actions until they withdrew. I’d be all for helping them with equipment and arms.
Unfortunately we have idiot Obama in office and, whatever your views on this, I think we can all agree he has ensured the world has no respect for us at all.
Of course this isn’t the feared Soviet Army. But it doesn’t have to be. Most of Europe’s Armies are demilitarized.
20% of Russian forces being 1st world equals about 190,000 men able to be deployed right now with logistical support in place.
We can counter that right now how?