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National Review Online ^ | April 22, 2014 | Robert Bryce

[Paladin2]

There is nothing wrong with having 4 to 10 kWhr/day of battery backed up photovoltaic solar, esp. for SHTF.

[wastoute]

Ask any physics professor. Solar is cleanest thermally and with regard to CO2. If you continue with him or better, an engineer, they will both tell you that to think it could any where meet even a small fraction of our energy needs is not just sophomoric but downright retard level cognition. (or yer standard DUmmie libturd.)

[Zathras]

Solar panels can’t meet the current densities required for anything other than simple lighting and small appliances.
Large solar reflector/steam plants do meet the demand however they require LOTS of land.
Kind of like some particular ranch land in southern Nevada...

[mreerm]

it’s very simple.

if he doesn’t name who/how it’s cheaper, and by how much, he’s lying.

it’s what the left does.

hey 0bama...how many have signed up for 0care and have paid.

same type of empty lying “claim”

it’s what they do

[neverdem]

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[98ZJ USMC]

Sure, the costs of solar are falling

Costs falling or subsidies rising?

[wastoute]

Figure it out. To meet the demands we had decades ago would have required 100% efficiency from an are the size of Texas. It is just not possible.

[TheOldLady]

Solar power would not work reliably in cloudy states like Washington, Oregon, and closer to home for me, Ohio, which is the second cloudiest state after Washington.

[Go_Raiders]

My father has a PhD in physics and used to teach at Stanford. He laughed when I told him about your CO2 claim.

He said, “Sure, but only if you use nuclear to power every single step of producing the raw materials and the manufacturing process, not to mention all the transportation involved at each step. Or you could just use nuclear power for all your electric needs and leave solar panels to the granola munchers and the folks that live off grid.”

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[Earthdweller]

Just think...the average person wouldn’t have to worry about buying a pesky new roof anymore. And, and, the savings is all expected to pay itself off in about 200 years. The kicker, every rooftop of solar panels comes with a free security guard to keep your $60,000 investment from growing legs! Yea, solar panels are way cool. I wanna eat beans from now until my death to get them..fir sure.

[wastoute]

Yer dad is a smart man.

[BfloGuy]

There is nothing wrong with having 4 to 10 kWhr/day of battery backed up photovoltaic solar, esp. for SHTF.

Well, of course, not.

But my tax dollars shouldn't be going to subsidise your SHTF plan [not that I think you believe otherwise]. Solar and wind power make great sense for people who want to be or must be off the grid.

They're lousy, though, as mass generation technologies.

[Paladin2]

Nah, I've been working on my electrical usage and find that for much of the year (Spring, Summer, Fall), I can get by quite comfortably with ~ 6 kWh/day.

Being hooked up to the grid is a good thing, as is being capable of generating basic needs when the grid goes down. Additional generation can be provided by Diesel powered vehicles in the driveway when in the Winter during grid interruptions. Diesel stores well; a Tactical reserve of same is indicated.

[Paladin2]

I’m looking for a mini Nuke power plant.

[Paladin2]

"Solar panels can’t meet the current densities required for anything other than simple lighting and small appliances."

What else do you need?

Electric cars?

[Balding_Eagle]

The author is having a rational argument with an irrational man.

[Alamo-Girl]

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[roadcat]

hey 0bama...how many have signed up for 0care and have paid.

Speaking of bending the truth, lots of the "paid" that signed up for Ocare are due to states signing up jailed convicts. It bumped up the numbers, but the taxpayers are again paying for it. Millions of jailed convicts, health care costs foisted on us.

Solar is a similar play. Lots of people installing it, but heavily subsidized by the rest of us. So are electric cars, the use of which solar can't create enough energy to recharge them. Lying no matter what they say, it's what the left does.