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Los Angeles aims to make Obamacare universal in more than just name
The Guardian UK ^ | April 20, 2014 | by David Dayen

Posted on 04/20/2014 8:49:03 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

On a sunny weekday morning just east of downtown Los Angeles, a crowd of about 75 people rallied outside the LA County/USC Medical Center. They toted signs with slogans like “Healthcare is a Human Right” and “Salud Para Todos” (“Health for All”).

“How can we say we live in a just and humane society,” said one speaker, “without providing for the sickest and most vulnerable among us?”

Los Angeles, with its massive low-income population and largest concentration of immigrants anywhere in the country, may be the epicenter of the continuing uninsured crisis in America. Somewhere around one million county residents will remain uninsured even after the law changes.

“You have one million people in a county without access to primary health benefits, there’s a very good chance that you’ll have a lot of sick people, who will get other people sick,” says Tom Holler of OneLA, a faith-based coalition pushing for more funding for the uninsured.

The question the protesters were tackling is this: how do cities and states fill the gap between the people who are covered by Obamacare and those who aren't?

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; christianleft; faithbased; freemarket; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; lofan; losangeles; obamacare; religiousleft; rinocare; statecontrol
Why even bother having laws regulating our border and citizenship? There is no meaning to our sovereignty. Hell in a hand basket.
1 posted on 04/20/2014 8:49:03 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When government becomes god, bad government becomes judgement. The left is determined to bring hellfire down upon us.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 8:52:51 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Somewhere around one million county residents will remain uninsured even after the law changes.

They are MANDATED to sign up.
They are MANDATED to have health insurance.

You we saying that these people are LAWBREAKERS??
Are these people -- many of whom seem to be illegal aliens -- are these people CRIMINALS???

Shocking! What can be done??

3 posted on 04/20/2014 8:54:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Great! Maybe we can get our New Messiah-Led Universal Health Care up to the standards of the UK National Health Service. /sarc


4 posted on 04/20/2014 8:55:00 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I know these people, they wait in lines around the block to get free health care all night.


5 posted on 04/20/2014 8:56:10 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why even bother having laws regulating our border and citizenship? There is no meaning to our sovereignty.

That's been their plan for a very, very long time.
6 posted on 04/20/2014 8:56:40 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“You have one million people in a county without access to primary health benefits, there’s a very good chance that you’ll have a lot of sick people, who will get other people sick” that is the mission of public health, what an idiot.


7 posted on 04/20/2014 8:57:26 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Los Angeles, with its massive low-income population and largest concentration of immigrants anywhere in the country, may be the epicenter of the continuing uninsured crisis in America.

Who's running that hellhole!?

Oh. Right. DemocRATS.

8 posted on 04/20/2014 9:01:14 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The question the protesters were tackling is this: how do cities and states fill the gap between the people who are covered by Obamacare and those who aren't?

I thought everybody would be covered OCare, even illegals?

9 posted on 04/20/2014 9:02:04 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“How can we say we live in a just and humane society,” said one speaker, “without providing for the sickest and most vulnerable among us?”

Said one speaker? The speaker didn't have a name?

Okay. Fine. Just tell us what language the speaker spoke in.

Alright. Alright. Which Union was represented on the t-shirt the speaker wore?

10 posted on 04/20/2014 9:03:15 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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If two million military age Chinese men overstayed their visas it would be an act of love.


11 posted on 04/20/2014 9:04:11 AM PDT by The Toll (e)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

L.A. is utterly broke, EVERYTHING has to go perfect with the economy just to balance the budget by 2018. And that’s only if you believe the math. Of course that doesn’t even touch the deficit / Pension obligations. .

Utterly suicide to give these one million takers free Health Ins. I’m sure there are plenty of morons on the left whom are up to the task.


12 posted on 04/20/2014 9:06:22 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The question the protesters were tackling is this: how do cities and states fill the gap between the people who are covered by Obamacare and those who aren't?

That's the question they were asking? For reals, player (or however you say player in British)?

Fine. I'll answer that question. You pay for it out of pocket. Just like Preezy Pajama Boy said. You cancel your cell phone, you cancel your cable, you cancel your internet, you turn down your thermostat, you make sure you have proper air pressure in your tires, you stop buying beer, you stop buying cigarettes, you stop buying lottery tickets.

For the record those last three ideas were mine.

13 posted on 04/20/2014 9:07:23 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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There is no meaning to our sovereignty.

I recently picked up "Imagined Communities" by Benedict Anderson. It's considered a bit of a landmark work in the study of Nation States. Benedict identifies a nation in the following ways:

It is imagined -- the people feel that they are One People, even if objective evidence may argue against it. (e pluribus unum).
It is limited -- there are borders; these may change, but there is the notion that it starts here or ends there.
It is sovereign -- No outside authorty, no higher authority makes rules which impact the workings of the sovereign state.
It is a community -- although injustices may exist, the nation is a horizontal comradeship which forms a fraternity of "we're all in this together".

I would say that the USA fails each and every one of these criteria.

14 posted on 04/20/2014 9:13:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yeah. Great idea.

Drive more wealthy people out of Los Angeles.

Heavens to Mergatroid. Poor people are so stupid.

Are they poor because they are stupid or are they stupid because they are poor?

15 posted on 04/20/2014 9:16:34 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: DAC21

The way Californians look at it is; it will be mostly federal money (taxes) that will pay for the healthcare, and it is only right because Californians have put in more federal taxes than they get back for a long time. The union boss I used to work with used to complain about that, and I would tell him that is a problem of central planning and federal gov’t overreach. If the federal gov’t could only tax for the things that are within the constitution, the States could take care of other things with their own money.


16 posted on 04/20/2014 9:29:54 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We have a third of all welfare and 20% unemployment along with the highest taxes. Of course they want more government.


17 posted on 04/20/2014 9:35:51 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Graciela Villeda, an uninsured and undocumented resident
Then she should be arrested and deported at least according to one Nevada senator. We believe in a country in which we are subject to laws and you can’t just ignore the laws we don’t like - Harry Reid
18 posted on 04/20/2014 9:39:00 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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The one thing that has become more and more clear to me is we are making fiscal and economic policies not on math but on emotions. Where does this eventually lead?


19 posted on 04/20/2014 9:53:44 AM PDT by LMAO (Insurgent conservative)
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