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UPDATE 2-Russia warns Europe of gas supply cuts over Ukraine debt
Reuters ^ | 04/10/2014 | Alexei Anishchuk

Posted on 04/10/2014 9:42:11 AM PDT by Rusty0604

MOSCOW, April 10 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin warned European leaders on Thursday Russia would cut natural gas supplies to Ukraine if it did not pay its bills and said this could lead to a reduction of onward deliveries to Europe.

In a letter to the leaders of 18 countries, he demanded urgent talks with Europe on pulling Ukraine's economy out of crisis but made clear his patience was running out over Kiev's $2.2 billion gas debt to its former Soviet master.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: energy; gasputin; naturalgas; ukraine
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Putin is making trade deals including gas with China (not using U.S. dollar) and then there is this; "Russia rejects US warnings over oil deal with Iran" http://news.yahoo.com/russia-rejects-us-warnings-over-oil-deal-iran-195610491.html;_ylt=AwrSbmeTx0ZTH1wARFpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0dXI0N2JqBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDA1MF8x
1 posted on 04/10/2014 9:42:11 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I guess Europe will want more nasty “baby killer” “capitalist pig” “Zionist loving” American oil now....and we’ll give it to them...at the American peoples expense. NO WAR FOR OIL!


2 posted on 04/10/2014 9:47:09 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be," -Epitap)
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“...at the American peoples expense. NO WAR FOR OIL!”

Interesting point. And it makes sense too because we are not increasing capacity. Well if we are (ie nat gas), the EPA and the environmentalists will take care of that.

This will only increase costs to Americans if we don't increase capacity — supply vs demand.

3 posted on 04/10/2014 9:52:52 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Dallas59

We have plenty of it. Hopefully they will buy it from us at a profit to our companies instead of taxpayer expense.


4 posted on 04/10/2014 9:53:41 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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And yet there are even some here on FR who swear that the USSR is dead.
5 posted on 04/10/2014 10:03:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Rusty0604

How does this play out? Russia cuts off Ukraine gas for non-payment. Ukraine diverts Western Europe bound gas passing through Ukraine for its own use. Suggests Europe pay the arrearage for them. What is Europe’s choice?


6 posted on 04/10/2014 10:05:18 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Rusty0604

This is the big anvil over the head of Europe, and NATO.

Gas reserves in Europe are almost nil due to a very cold winter. At one point this winter, Britain was down to just a six-day supply. It will take years to bring on more storage capacity, and build the ships and ports to bring American Gas to Europe.

This is the cost of the “GREEN!” agenda, and it looks like Europe is going to have to pay it.


7 posted on 04/10/2014 10:11:49 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Dallas59

Europe has been the big pusher of the green, global warming movement.

I say we tell then use their much vaunted windmills and solar panels and how well they can compete in the modern world and be happy, you are not getting what you hoped for.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 10:12:56 AM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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That was all taken care of in the deal Putin made with the government the mob in the street overthrew, Apparently the new guys didn't get their EU ducks in a row before they decided they wanted to be the new guys.
9 posted on 04/10/2014 10:14:09 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Procyon

“How does this play out?”

Europe folds, or they get to sit in the dark.
This is the cost of the “GREEN!” agenda.


10 posted on 04/10/2014 10:14:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Rashputin

Ukraine hasn’t aid a penny for the Russian gas it has used since January 2013, and still got paid for transit to Europe.

It won’t take long for the $18 billion from the IMF to disappear in the fog of Ukraine’s massively corrupt systems.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 10:17:21 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Russia is using various proxy parties to disrupt the existing global order. Secession in Spain, Italy, Alaska, and Scotland.

Russia’s Secession Strategy EXPOSED...
http://nyyrc.com/blog/2014/04/russias-secessionist-strategy-exposed/


12 posted on 04/10/2014 10:19:04 AM PDT by Randall_S (Let's sink some ships.)
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If the fascists stay true to form, there will be a special tax imposed in US users to reduce the price the EU pays. Since this is a matter of national security there will also have to be limits on how much of our own gas we nasty Americans can use.


13 posted on 04/10/2014 10:20:00 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rusty0604

I’m sure those nice Americans will pay the bill. They always do.


14 posted on 04/10/2014 10:22:21 AM PDT by McGruff (Want to hurt Mozilla? Don't use Firefox's search bar. That is their money maker.)
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To: Randall_S

“Russia is using various proxy parties to disrupt the existing global order”

I take it you have never heard of the “Open Society Institute”?


15 posted on 04/10/2014 10:22:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Rusty0604

Uh Oh! Putin did have a plan once he took over Ukraine. What will Dear Bammy’s next chess move be? Now he will work toward’s crushing the European Union. He might collect some cash along the way. He now gets to hold Europe hostage.

European governments will cower and capitulate. They are as feckless and defenseless as America in this.

More and more, I believe, as a populace, we have become too stupid to govern ourselves. We elected jacka$$es to rule over us and then handed them the whips and chains.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 10:22:48 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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Russia will win out in every respect in this unfortunate mess that the EU and US has helped create.

It’s a shame that powerful nations (US, Russia, EU countries)
have worthless scum as leaders. The last good guys were Thatcher and Reagan.... we may never see their like again.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 10:22:55 AM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: Tenacious 1

...Putin, that is. (gets to hold Europe hostage)


18 posted on 04/10/2014 10:25:44 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Rusty0604

Obama officially blocks Putin from seeing his Tumblr page.

Watch it, Vlad, or else Instagram will be next!


19 posted on 04/10/2014 10:26:00 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: edcoil

The greenies got Germany to close their nuclear power even though there’s not much chance of a tsunami there.


20 posted on 04/10/2014 10:27:18 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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