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To: SgtBob
This will not be fixed until such time as the DOD boots the women, and homosexuals out.

Nice. This woman made sure 21 years worth of Marines were properly paid and their records kept straight. But I guess there's no value in that, since a woman did it.

17 posted on 04/08/2014 6:20:09 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Pain is inevitable. Misery is optional.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Get over your self, Sandy. I was a Fleet Marine for years, and got my sorry ass FAPed to a MCB unit...specifically MCB Camp Foster, Okinawa, Joint Forces Brig. I saw, and dealt with Marines running afoul of MCRs, MCOs, and the UCMJ. I’m not speaking of the prisoners, I’m speaking of the personnel.

The morale is so low in a “co-ed” unit, it is stinking pathetic. And it’s because there is women around. Like I said, I love women...so do a bunch of other male Marines....jealousy, envy, rivalry = zero unit cohesion.


32 posted on 04/08/2014 6:45:48 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I wasn’t in the military, but my father, husband and daughter were and our son-in-law is. We all thank you for your service.

Women are just as important as men in the military, but some can’t see that.


49 posted on 04/08/2014 7:52:44 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Semper Fi, Marine, and thank you for your faithful, professional, and long-standing service to our Nation!

Get Some!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

51 posted on 04/08/2014 8:05:14 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I dont propose to speak for Sgt Bob. I am sure that he can do that for himself. But I suspect that he is speaking of the current mania in the armed forces to force fit/shoehorn women into combat and combat support roles for which they are largely wholly unsuited to the resultant detriment of the combat readiness of those forces, NOT stateside administrative clerical duties.

On 20 November 1943, during the horrific fighting on Betio atoll during the battle of Tarawa, two Japanese tanks mounted a counterattack against the fragile Marine toehold on Red Beach 3. The Marines were huddled there at the base of a seawall in the face of withering fire from Admiral Keiji Shibasaki’s fanatical Japanese Naval Landing Force defenders who were slaughtering hundreds of their 2nd Marine Division comrades in Betio Lagoon during 76 hours of some of the most savage fighting in the history not only of the Marines, but the US armed forces.

Marine anti-tank gun crews were trying to figure out how to get their 912 lb 37MM M3 antitank guns over the 7 foot plus seawall. The battery commander ordered his 5 man crews to LIFT them over. Being Marines who always obeyed even seemingly impossible orders, they did EXACTLY that and promptly knocked out the tanks. They then engaged several enemy bunkers whose dual purpose guns were repeatedly knocking out the approaching landing craft and put them out of action. Finally they routed a local counter attack of 200 or so Japanese against the south shore of Red Beach 3 with canister shot, all of this at a critical and precarious point in the landing.
Whats that about upper body strength being not as important
in modern warfare anymore and that women are just as likely to be able to do the job of combat infantry?

I mean no disrespect to the female perssonnel of the US Armed Forces who have served and ARE serving their nation honorably and well. I respect them as fellow vets and comrades in arms. Policy decisions are above their level for the most part.

But as a matter of POLICY, I think that women should be excluded from the armed forces for the most part, with a few exceptions and COMPLETELY from combat and most combat support roles, particularly when the armed forces are a small percentage of the total population, as is the case now. The use of significant numbers of women should be reserved for large scale mobilization as was the case in WWII. The population base is more than twice as large now as then and there would be no problem securing a sufficient number of qualified men with appropriate incentives for such a relatively small armed forces.

The advantages for the armed forces, particularly the Army would be greater flexibility as to how personnel can be deployed in combat emergencies and other contingincies and a lesser logistical strain as involves clothing, barracks and housing, and innumerable other considerations that are exclusive to the maintenence of large numbers of women. I think morale and discipline would also be improved as well.
The courts have repeatedly ruled that the armed forces are exempted from many of the equal opportunity requirements of the civillian world, and for the very good and sufficient requirements that are unique to the armed forces. This contretemps is being propelled largely by the cultural marxist wing of gender equity feminism who wish for the placement of a leftist Chairwoman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The resultant detriment of the ability of the armed forces to fight plays no consideration in their calculus, other than as an peripheral side benefit.

I know that women have played a vital role during guerrilla, partisan warfare and sabatoge/espionage activity. But to deliberately employ them in ground combat units whose primary task is to close with, engage and destroy similar enemy units is the height of lunacy and madness given the effort required to identify the relative few who could qualify even if we ignore the potential detriments to morale and discipline.

This is sheer and utter madness akin to allowing open homosexuals to serve in the armed forces.


57 posted on 04/08/2014 8:45:25 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: SandyInSeattle

my mom was in WW2....no, not a heroic pilot nor did she storm Normandy beach....she did care for TB patients and other sick and injured in the military.....I’m sure she lived a lot of hell thru their injuries and sicknesses...


59 posted on 04/08/2014 8:59:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SandyInSeattle

God Bless, and thank you.


60 posted on 04/08/2014 9:35:23 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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