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U.S. to trim air, sea and land nuke launchers under U.S.-Russia treaty: officials
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Posted on 04/08/2014 9:18:10 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

U.S. to trim air, sea and land nuke launchers under U.S.-Russia treaty: officials 11:32am EDT

By David Alexander

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will scale back its land, sea and air nuclear missile launchers under a New START treaty with Russia but not retire a ballistic missile squadron as some lawmakers had expected, U.S. officials told Reuters.

The U.S. military will disable four missile launch tubes on each of its 14 U.S. nuclear submarines, convert 30 B-52 nuclear bombers to conventional use and empty 50 intercontinental ballistic missile silos, senior administration officials said on condition of anonymity.

The plan is expected to be formally announced on Tuesday.

One official said the government wanted to maintain flexibility across its land, sea and air weapons systems. "It provides us a bit of a hedge," said the official.

The New START treaty reached in President Barack Obama's first term called for cuts in the number of deployed strategic nuclear warheads in the United States and Russia to 1,550 apiece by 2018, down from the previous ceiling of 2,200. It was agreed in 2010 and went into force on February 5, 2011.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: disarmament; nationalsecurityfail; newstart; newstarttreaty; obama; russia; start; starttreaty; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 04/08/2014 9:18:10 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

And just what does Russia give up?.......(crickets)


2 posted on 04/08/2014 9:20:49 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Damn...look how “flexible” Obama can be.

Treasonous, traitorous bastage.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 9:21:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Sub-Driver

While Russia is moving across Eastern Europe it’s vital we cut back on our military.

/sarc


4 posted on 04/08/2014 9:23:35 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Sub-Driver

And has Congress ratified this treaty?


5 posted on 04/08/2014 9:23:45 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_START#United_States


6 posted on 04/08/2014 9:26:10 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Dejavu?

What happen???

Someone set us up the bomb!!!

7 posted on 04/08/2014 9:27:37 AM PDT by meadsjn
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8 posted on 04/08/2014 9:27:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“And has Congress ratified this treaty?”

The president does not need ratification as all military forces are under his command. He could, for example, order all Air Force and Navy planes scrapped tomorrow at 9:00am. At this point, I’m not certain the order would be complied with, but he has eliminated dozens of command level officers for some reason.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 9:28:07 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Sub-Driver

Under Obama’s command, the Minutemen would have brought tea to the British Regulars.


10 posted on 04/08/2014 9:28:43 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Sub-Driver

When was this ratified by the Senate?


11 posted on 04/08/2014 9:28:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver
yeah..just like in 1919; the USA was disarmed itself. (Wash. Naval agreement)
no one can dispute (B@$t@$d) pResident Bathhouse 0'Muslim, was going to do this.

12 posted on 04/08/2014 9:30:15 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obamie must be so proud...in a leftist whacko radical sort of way.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 9:33:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver
The leader and goat just being flexible...


14 posted on 04/08/2014 9:34:04 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be," -Epitap)
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To: Sub-Driver
The New START treaty reached in President Barack Obama's first term called for cuts in the number of deployed strategic nuclear warheads in the United States and Russia to 1,550 apiece by 2018, down from the previous ceiling of 2,200. It was agreed in 2010 and went into force on February 5, 2011.

The good think about reducing the number of nukes is that it saves money and makes it easier to safeguard the remaining inventory. The bad thing is that at some inventory level the situation becomes unstable in the sense that a preemptive strike can disable so much of the other side's force that a first strike becomes tactically advantageous for the side that disables the other side's capability. In other words, reducing the stockpile below a certain threshold is destabilizing. It is time (or past time) to start worrying about whether we are there or about to reach that level.

15 posted on 04/08/2014 9:35:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is the beginning of the commie left's dream come true.

16 posted on 04/08/2014 9:40:55 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Sub-Driver

This is insane............................


17 posted on 04/08/2014 9:48:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The plan is expected to be formally announced on Tuesday. "

WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!! What ever happened to 'bargaining chip' and holding this agreement hostage in exchange for a Putin reversal in the Ukraine? Team Barry are the most traitorous administration, EVER!!!!! This smells like Barry is a Soviet-operative. His parents met in a Russian language class, hmmmm....

18 posted on 04/08/2014 9:48:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: dfwgator; Gen.Blather
It was ratified in the lame duck session of 2010.

When it came out of committee(14-4), Kerry and Lugar has a signing ceremony, which Big Henry attended so as to bestow his blessings on the treaty. In the run=up to the senate ratification all the Realist Ex-SOSs came out in a co=ordinated effort of support. Kissinger, James Baker, George Schultz, Colin Powell, Condi Rice.

The NeoCons threw up a big battle to stop it but as I recall it passed with 71 votes

19 posted on 04/08/2014 9:51:42 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Sub-Driver; Nachum

So the ‘outrage a day’ coming from this administration since Jan. 20, 2009 continues without pause or quarter. Traitorous Marxists.


20 posted on 04/08/2014 9:53:33 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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21 posted on 04/08/2014 9:59:48 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Jeff Head

Treasonous, traitorous bastage.

Perhaps not just him, did this not have to be agreed upon in the Senate too? Perhaps they need a new vote in light of current events.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 10:00:56 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Nachum

That’s SOP when there in an enemy combatant masquerading as a “president”.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 10:01:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Bogey78O

One day in the not too distant future, we’ll wonder how we missed all of the obvious evidence that our country had been taken over by the Soviets.


24 posted on 04/08/2014 10:04:48 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I don’t have to.

The Soviets inserted their ideology of class conflict into the minds of disaffected youths in the 50s and 60s. Then through attrition of older traditionalists coupled with exploiting moral and character weaknesses in the upper class


25 posted on 04/08/2014 10:11:08 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: penelopesire
Jan. 20, 2009?

You need to go back to GHW Bush when the first Start Treaty was ratified.

And you need to go back even further.

Ronald Reagan campaigned on Nuke arms reduction which he called SALT3, so as to build on Nixon and Carter. And much of the ground work for the first START was laid in Reagans second term.

Is 5000 nukes not enough?

26 posted on 04/08/2014 10:12:03 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: beethovenfan
And just what does Russia give up?.......(crickets)

And just as importantly...what will the Chinese,the North Koreans,the Iranians and the Pakistanis give up?

27 posted on 04/08/2014 10:12:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

That’ll show em!/s


28 posted on 04/08/2014 10:17:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jeff Head
Treasonous, traitorous bastage.

And we have a worthless congress that will let him get away with it.
They are true enablers of treason and just as guilty.

29 posted on 04/08/2014 10:18:59 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: little jeremiah
A few of the stories relevant to this...

U.S. to trim air, sea and land nuke launchers under U.S.-Russia treaty: officials

Senators: Iran-Russia Trade Deal Opens Floodgates for Nuke Materials, Weapons Experts, lawmakers warn $20B trade deal violates nuke deal

Kerry: 'Under Law' Obama Admin Needs Congressional Approval of Iran Deal

Senate Approves Ted Cruz's Bill Denying Visa to Iran´s U.N. Ambassador

30 posted on 04/08/2014 10:19:30 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"but not retire a ballistic missile squadron as some lawmakers had expected, U.S. officials told Reuters.

...and empty 50 intercontinental ballistic missile silos...

What kind of idiots write this? A Minuteman squadron is 50 missile launch facilities.

31 posted on 04/08/2014 10:39:22 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Gen.Blather
'The president does not need ratification as all military forces are under his command.'

Not true. He is merely the CiC. That is all.

The vast control of the military is in the hands of Congress. Only Congress has the authority to set the size of the military and regulate the rules and regulations of the military.

32 posted on 04/08/2014 10:47:27 AM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Surely you know the difference between a president who seeks to fundamentally transform this country into a Marxist authoritarian hellhole and who doesn’t have this country’s best interests at heart.......and 2 presidents who sought to reduce our nuclear tensions with Russia through negotiated reduction agreements.


33 posted on 04/08/2014 10:57:46 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

The democrat senate had to ratify it to see what was in it.


34 posted on 04/08/2014 11:09:22 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, that’s a relief. We can afford to do this now that North Korea and Iran have given up their nuclear weapons programs. Uh...they have, right?


35 posted on 04/08/2014 11:16:38 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: penelopesire
"Surely you know the difference"

Of course I know the differences. But I don't agree with how you might want to frame the differences.

In this particular issue, the differences fall along foreign policy doctrinal lines. Not along political party lines

And one can say it as just one of the many cracks/conflicts in the GOP. In this case it is Realists versus NeoCons. There are so many conflicts in the GOP so it is hard to tell which is the worst.

You may want this to be about Republicans versus Democrats but it is really about Republicans versus Republicans.

36 posted on 04/08/2014 11:45:56 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Sub-Driver

We need to retake the Senate and stop this junk. This was done on the Dem/Dem/Obama watch.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 12:04:58 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sub-Driver

Isn’t Russia already in violation of this treaty? What are we doing!!??


38 posted on 04/08/2014 12:24:42 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama Administration To Shrink Military Back To Pre WWII Levels

America’s Fundamental Transformation Under Obama , 2013

Obama Calls For Nuke-Free World , 2009


39 posted on 04/08/2014 12:36:10 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Gen.Blather

As it turns out the Senate did ratify this treaty and it went into force on Jan 26 2011 accordimg to wikipedia.


40 posted on 04/08/2014 12:37:19 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Red Badger
This is insane............................

I hope I get the word the second the Revolution commences because Obammy will cut off the internet, all conservative radio, and only allow "HIS" media affiliates to operate spewing more propaganda.

White House feeding the morning media


41 posted on 04/08/2014 12:41:29 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
And has Congress ratified this treaty?

Just like the UN Small Arms Treaty that Obammy had JFK sign, do you honestly believe that this national clown has to have the TREATY RATIFIED before he commences enforcement? Really? HE IS THE MOST LAWLESS PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME.
42 posted on 04/08/2014 12:43:13 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Sub-Driver
Just what the enemy wants, a weak US military.
This will do just the opposite, the liberal thinking that cutting back on nukes and weapons will cause the enemy to think and do just the same thing all in the name of " Peace " .... however ? this will invite America's enemy to view America as weak and will actually provoke a attack.
All this will do is invite a Nuclear Attack from Russia, China, and America's enemies.... doping idiots..
43 posted on 04/08/2014 12:54:55 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Gen.Blather

And eliminated certain Nuclear forces Generals..


44 posted on 04/08/2014 12:56:55 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Dallas59
Yeah that GIF is hysterical...
If our situation wasn't sad and dangerous, it would be laughable.
45 posted on 04/08/2014 1:00:48 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Sub-Driver
U.S. to trim air, sea and land nuke launchers under U.S.-Russia treaty: officials

Since we're unilaterally disarming, how about we throw in a kenyan commie bastard too!

46 posted on 04/08/2014 1:06:29 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Sub-Driver

That will show Russia who’s boss!


47 posted on 04/08/2014 1:51:24 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Ben Ficklin


This is reality. Estonia and Poland are next
48 posted on 04/08/2014 1:55:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Sub-Driver

People generally return to what is comfortable for them.

By the end of Obama’s term in office, out national defense will consist of an individual packet for the citizen of our nation.

5 tubes of ky-jelly per citizen
1 manual
3 easy lessons on how to bend over
1 simply lesson on what to do as soon as the ky is gone


49 posted on 04/08/2014 2:02:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I said nothing of republicans vs democrats. You did. This is a new START treaty. Has nothing to do with other treaties. This one is Obama’s and because of that, is suspect. We know for a fact that Obama is an American hating Marxist who wants to see this country destroyed and rebuilt as some commie utopia. Not something I ever worried about Reagan doing. Not once....lol.


50 posted on 04/08/2014 2:13:05 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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