[Mariner]

" As in accepting the grand triumph of abortionism, homosexualism, atheism, isolationism, socialism; defeatism, open borders, free condoms, free drugs, etc, and just move on? Can't beat 'em, join 'em? Better red than dead? "

Jim

for a second there I thought you were talking about the CA GOP apparatus and establishment.

The party in our state is a disgrace. Utter disgrace.

[Jim Robinson]

The party’s a mess but we don’t fix it by evolving, adapting and advancing the liberal agenda. We fix it by holding fast to conservative principles. Our founding Judeo-Christian principles! If the GOP ditches the traditional conservative platform and goes for this evolutionary squishy liberaltarian pap, I’m OUT!!