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To: Kaslin

We want to repeal it. That will never happen. Repealing at this point will be almost as disruptive as the ACA was already.

And you are NOT going to take away the insurance people now have, even just temporarily, while you are working on a better way.

Whatever we come up with to get rid of the ACA at this point, it is going to have to deal with the new reality.

Because we all may well hate the entire concept. But nobody is seriously talking about abolishing Social Security, or Medicare. And like it or not, there are parts of the ACA that are now entrenched in that same way.

Somehow, we are going to have to find a way to afford to keep paying the insurance premiums for those 4 million people who now have insurance. Not because it is the right thing to do, but because you will not win an election, much less a vote, to do otherwise.

Reality sucks, and we can certainly work to change it, but there is little point pretending reality does not exist.

It did not help that the ACA had a bad rollout, in that regard. That made too many conservatives focus on “look how bad they are implementing”, instead of “good thing it is implemented badly, so it isn’t hurting quite as many people as it otherwise would have”


6 posted on 04/01/2014 4:54:34 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
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9 posted on 04/01/2014 5:07:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
We want to repeal it. That will never happen. Repealing at this point will be almost as disruptive as the ACA was already.

I hope you're wrong. I understand why you think it can't be repealed, but it can be, it HAS to be repealed. Yes, we need a viable alternative. With that and strong leadership, repeal could happen in as little as one, and at most four years.

10 posted on 04/01/2014 5:10:58 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Nonsense!
This piece of trash has been forced down the throats of Americans. Thir insurance has been cancelled by fiat. The law is nothing more than a power grab by marxist politicians.
It is simple enough to reinstate every detail of the system it has poleaxed. We did this once before with abolition. We surely are smart enough to do it again.
Insurance is a state matter, not a federal one. Get the feds out of our health care, totally. Rates will drop, cost will drop and the quality of care will go through the stratosphere.
Simple.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 5:11:55 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
We want to repeal it.That will never happen.

What a defeatist attitude.

Repealing at this point will be almost as disruptive as the ACA was already.

Huh? So what. I think most Conservatives know it will only get worse and worse and worse. It will allow the government to enslave us.

Therefore, no matter how painful it is we MUST repeal every single word of this monstrosity.

The very act of repealing this evil Statist act will immediately start the dynamics of the Market to start working. Then going forward we can push many solutions such as Tort reform, buying across State borders etc.

It astounds me that Freepers are afraid of the dynamics of the marketplace. Please go and read Joseph Schumpete and his wonderful explanation of the benefits of Capitalism, what he calls Creative destruction.

The very act of removing government from more and more of our lives will allow the people to more freely interact and arrive at more cost effective and more efficient solutions to all the problems we face.

12 posted on 04/01/2014 5:14:13 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And you are NOT going to take away the insurance people now have, even just temporarily, while you are working on a better way.


Nothing is taken away if it’s repealed. They’ll just see a surprising increase in the premiums next year, like we did this year.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 5:16:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Lose to Cruz - 2016!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And you are NOT going to take away the insurance people now have, even just temporarily, while you are working on a better way.

But isn’t that EXACTLY what Obama did? So obviously, it’s doable.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 5:30:28 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: CharlesWayneCT

We want to repeal it. That will never happen. Repealing at this point will be almost as disruptive as the ACA was already.

And you are NOT going to take away the insurance people now have, even just temporarily, while you are working on a better way.

Whatever we come up with to get rid of the ACA at this point, it is going to have to deal with the new reality.


You don’t want kenyancare repealed because that would be “almost as disruptive as the ACA”? That is just a excuse for not fighting the Dems on kenyancare. It’s a variation on the beltway GOP surrender plan template that always comes the promise to fight for the next hill. That’s why they lose.

Until we fight the Dems on the beaches, mountains and everywhere in between we will continue to lose. If the Dems can ram through kenyancare, the GOP can ram through it’s “root and branch” repeal. Period.


17 posted on 04/01/2014 5:33:54 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Sir, with all due respect to your thoughtful post, I disagree. History is not on your side. Google “United States Repealed Legislation” and you will find 39 pages, single spaced, of repealed Federal Legislation. Some of it major, some of it not. But, the concept of “REPEAL” is deeply embedded in American Politics and Ted Cruz, a student of the Constitution and American Politics knows this.

What you are saying was once said too about Prohibition but in somewhere around a dozen years opposition gradually built and it was Repealed.

So, when you say “never happen”, my suggestion is that you consider a caveat to that assertion. That caveat being that with “this” congress there is “no way”. Then you will say “well, ok Obama will veto” if the Pubs take control of Congress. And even that argument ignores that only a handful of Dems in the Senate and even fewer in the house will be needed to over-ride his veto IF THE PUBS ARE EVEN MODERATELY SUCCESSFUL IN NOVEMBER!

If the pubs hit a home run in NOvember, then APPEAL becomes almost a certainty. (note I used the word “almost”)


21 posted on 04/01/2014 6:04:49 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I see it differently. Social Security has been entrenched for over seventy years. Medicare has been around since the 60’s. Food stamps since the 70’s. We know that the welfare state is unsustainable, and Obamacare only adds to the bill coming due. So when it comes time to roll back the welfare state (assuming we don’t collapse under it’s weight), what will go first? Obviously, the least popular.


25 posted on 04/01/2014 7:20:00 PM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: CharlesWayneCT

John Boehner...is that you?

I’m with Ted. REPEAL. EVERY. WORD. OF. IT.


26 posted on 04/01/2014 7:23:59 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And you are NOT going to take away the insurance people now have, even just temporarily, while you are working on a better way.

Then sunset it. But it has to go. And I think you're the only person on FR who still calls this monstrosity "ACA". It isn't "A", it takes away "C" and the last "A" has to be stopped.

31 posted on 04/02/2014 6:43:27 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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