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1 posted on 04/01/2014 8:08:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Rand is picking some strange battles...he’s his father’s son, after all..


2 posted on 04/01/2014 8:14:17 AM PDT by Homer1
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Rand Paul has too many knots in his kite string just like his father.


3 posted on 04/01/2014 8:16:22 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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What??

Joe Biden said the GERMANS attacked Pearl Harbor?

Who are WE to dispute what the VeeP says??


4 posted on 04/01/2014 8:16:39 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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IIRC, the comment was from a speech from several months (maybe 2 years?) ago. Seems that his comment, out of context, is being twisted and headlined now.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 8:18:36 AM PDT by NEMDF
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Muy El Flako like his dad & his hair needs an oil change. Would have been an America Firster.

Ted Cruz in 2016. Is there really any doubt, now?


6 posted on 04/01/2014 8:18:48 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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According to either Paul, cutting off trade with Japan "forced them into killing scores in Pearl Harbor then millions of Americans more fighting to protect our homeland" is tantamount to saying refusing to honor Allah "forces Islamic terrorists to fly planes into American buildings, behead Christians in their countries and to place pressure cookers along the finish line at the Boston Marathon!"

No Paul's for me thank you!

8 posted on 04/01/2014 8:20:53 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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Using Rand Paul logic, we should not secure our own borders, otherwise Mexico could retaliate with a cross border invasion....oh, wait...


9 posted on 04/01/2014 8:21:38 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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The US *is* responsible for the Pearl Harbor attack, but for a different reason. There were 9 official inquiries between 1941 and 1946 and a tenth in 1995:

“The inquiries reported incompetence, underestimation, and misapprehension of Japanese capabilities and intentions; problems resulting from excessive secrecy about cryptography; division of responsibility between Army and Navy (and lack of consultation between them); and lack of adequate manpower for intelligence (analysis, collection, processing)”

So we can feel comforted that nothing like this could ever happen nowadays...


10 posted on 04/01/2014 8:22:06 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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“There are times when sanctions have made it worse. I mean, there are times .. leading up to World War II we cut off trade with Japan. That probably caused Japan to react angrily. We also had a blockade on Germany after World War I, which may have encouraged them … some of their anger.” Paul says.


Is that all he said? Heck, on a technical basis, what he said is absolutely right.

Of course, most people won’t pick up on the nuances that cause someone who is actually familiar with the world that led to war in the pacific to say what he said.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 8:22:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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Was it Rand or the liberal reporter that did the story yesterday?


13 posted on 04/01/2014 8:24:42 AM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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The chain of financial related links leading down to WWII are usually beyond the scope of threshing out on a discussion forum without a lengthy associated reading list, but suffice it to say if they didn’t facilitate the creation of the large military forces on credit, the options of the involved powers would have had a far more limited scope. Their actions associated with WWI are what set the stage for the subsequent conflict 20 years later.

As for us maneuvering the Japanese into taking the first shot, of that I have no doubt, and given the situation overall it was good strategic thinking. My main problem with it is that the government “left a lot on the table” so to speak with respect to having the citizen soldiers in the forward areas prepared to meet the coming storm.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 8:24:57 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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I really like Rand Paul, but engaging a debate of the cause or our involvement in WWII is TERRIBLE politics. Those were different times, and most people aren’t aware of all of the variables in play back then. There’s just simply nothing to be gained on his part by such a discussion or debate. In this political world comprised of 5 second sound bites and 30 second ads, you should ONLY say things that will HELP you.


15 posted on 04/01/2014 8:25:19 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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I wonder if Rand Paul really wants to become president. And unfortunately, Ted Cruz comes across as everyone's crazy but lovable uncle.

All the Republicans need is a candidate. Are there any unemployed generals around who managed to keep their pants on? So far Clint Eastwood's empty chair looks like the best bet against Hillary.

19 posted on 04/01/2014 8:30:03 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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A gross distortion of what Rand said... And it is not all that out of line with some historians not of the libertarian stripe


20 posted on 04/01/2014 8:30:07 AM PDT by Nifster
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My Dad, who was in Philippines, Leyte Gulf, Battle of Luzon - said he never understood why the US entered the war in Europe. Wouldn’t it have been better to simply let Hitler and Stalin bash each other’s brains out? I still can’t disagree with his position.


21 posted on 04/01/2014 8:30:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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Not what he said at all.


23 posted on 04/01/2014 8:33:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Because he is stupid.


32 posted on 04/01/2014 8:41:30 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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How on EARTH anyone calling themselves a Patriot can support the Pauls is absolutely beyond me.


33 posted on 04/01/2014 8:41:52 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Interesting. Not one word about the Japanese war on China and how
that helped to drive the US policy regarding Japan. As to the Rands,
politicians should confine their public history analysis to the most
basic concepts such as what the Founding Fathers intended. Newt,
whether we like him or not, would be an exception because he is
a professional historian. The Rands read a dubious book authored by
a WWII era isolationist or they just find a way to conform history
to their liking. Either way they look foolish in my book. Too bad.
I generally like Rand.


34 posted on 04/01/2014 8:43:05 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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And since “undocumented immigrants” vote Democrat 8-1 and register overwhelmingly as Democrats (the `Freeby Party’), according to Rand we need to stop talking deportation, and “legalize” and embrace them.
What a maroon. If Rand Paul isn’t a Democrat, he should be.
(See new tagline, created especially for the recent bounty of Demo-liars: Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Biden, et al.)


35 posted on 04/01/2014 8:47:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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