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Unbelievable: Common Core Problem Asks Kids to Choose Two Amendments to Remove From Bill of Rights
IJReview ^ | 03/31/2014 | Emily Hulsey

Posted on 03/31/2014 1:58:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Look to see the teachers union coming forth with a declaration that the children of America unanimously agree the second amendment should be done away with.

This is propaganda in the making.

101 posted on 04/01/2014 10:01:12 AM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Woman: I would like to ask the team what changes they would make if they were Hitler?

Graham Chapman: Well, speaking personally, I would annex the Sudetenland.


102 posted on 04/01/2014 2:14:57 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: RIghtwardHo
"Why is that upsetting? It’s just a thought experiment is all. We did a lot of this in Law School."

Did you do those "thought experiments" before being familiar with the Constitution or after?

Do you understand why it makes a big difference?

103 posted on 04/01/2014 4:46:31 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would one reduce the Bill of Rights in order to protect our rights? It’s like asking “in order to protect your family, which of your 2 kids would you drown in the sea?”


104 posted on 04/01/2014 4:51:36 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: Publius Valerius

The constitution enumerates God given rights and by no means limits or construes that they are only listed in the document... One cannot remove rights, just give them up without a fight.


105 posted on 04/01/2014 6:51:54 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
You’re a mature, emotionally developed, formally trained lawyer.
I think you got me mixed up with RightwardHo. I'm not a lawyer. I'm a copier engineer.
Imagine doing this in, say middle school, when civic knowledge and attitudes aren’t fully formed.
I can imagine it. My brother, who went to private school (I went to public) did problems like this in middle school. As I said, I did this in AP American Government in high school. I don't think middle school is too young to do this kind of thought experiment.
It’s easy for me to see this assignment as a “Delphi technique” vehicle for a discussion limiting a number of important Amendments—say, First, Fourth, Second, and Fifth. Throw in the Tenth, too, as this is a centrally organized educational program designed by people who clearly favor centralization over leaving any meaningful power to the States.
Just my opinion, but I think you're reading too much into it.
106 posted on 04/01/2014 7:05:38 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Add the 2nd Amendment back in, twice more.
;)


107 posted on 04/01/2014 8:20:25 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: GAFreedom

Perhaps you’re right... Sorry about the gratuitous professional insult (lawyer).

But, I also have a strong feeling that having a centralized detailed curriculum is a lever for indoctrination. I think that education should be developed at the state level. Also, a centralized curriculum lets the educational methods theorists run wild with crazy teaching theories.

This is particularly true in mathematics, where I’ve seen them teaching fourth graders extremely involved and slow methods of division, when most of the kids simply need to learn arithmetic. I went to a PTA meeting and remarked to the teacher, “This is silly. The method you’re teaching is very cumbersome, and is effectively synthetic division. However, it’s about five years early for these kids, who have no idea of what polynomials are, and need the basic computational tools of arithmetic in order to eventually be able to work more complex problems.” He said something about modern methods.


108 posted on 04/02/2014 6:02:47 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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