Posted on 03/25/2014 3:01:56 PM PDT by Morgana
A long-running child custody case took a dramatic turn Tuesday, when a Massachusetts juvenile court judge awarded “permanent” custody of teen-ager Justina Pelletier to the state Department of Children and Families.
The ruling by Judge Joseph Johnston leaves it up to the agency, not the court, to decide whether or when Pelletier should be returned to her West Hartford, Conn., home.
“It’s a huge ruling,” said a person who had been briefed on the decision. “It’s a setback for the parents.”
This person said the state, which has had temporary custody of Pelletier for more than a year, has no immediate plans to have the 15-year-old sent back home, or to a facility in her home state.
But a decision to award permanent custody can be revisited by the judge after six months, at the parents’ request. The judge made his order retroactive to late December, so a review could occur as soon as early summer.
Rev. Patrick Mahoney of the Washington D.C.-based Christian Defense Coalition, who has become the parents’ spokesman, said Tuesday that Lou and Linda Pelletier are “outraged” by the decision, though they have yet to get a written copy of it.
“There is no reason Justina should not be returned immediately back to the parents,” he said.
Mahoney said the parents continue to believe that their daughter is being “treated as a pawn and piece of property.”
Judge Johnston also denied a request by out-of-state lawyer Mathew Staver of Liberty Counsel in Florida to represent the girl’s parents.
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We need to permit Putin to annex Massatushits.There is more Justice in Russia.
There is. The hospital and the state kidnappers made a major booboo and now the girl is probably going to die.
They want to cover this up so they don't get sued from Boston to Timbuktu and back again.
This is, after all, the state that has "lost track" of over 100 children.
First of all, I don’t know anything about the actual facts of this case, and neither does anyone else commenting on the internet.
It’s pretty obvious, though, that the CH team believes her mother is injuring her, psychologically perhaps but more likely physically, and that her father is deceived. This is the usual pattern in what is called “Munchausen’s by proxy”.
This is a hard diagnosis to make, and the presumption of innocence (medical, not legal) is difficult to overcome.
For CH to go for this, I have to believe they’ve got the evidence.
There is compelling evidence again Munchausen’s by proxy.
THE GIRL IS NOT GETTING BETTER!
“The girl is not getting better”
And you have examined her and seen the records?
Today, audio archive...
Howie Carr: Pelletier Shocker
http://audio.wrko.com/a/89344393/pelletier-shocker.htm
She went from being able to walk to not being able to walk.
I know you feel you have to defend your client but BCH had decided before Justina came in that there was no such thing as Mitochondrial diagnosis.
This is not this first time BCH has done this. They did this to another boy with the same disease. They eventually lost and Gabriel Hilliard was returned to his parents.
BCH is doing this so often that they are calling it a “parent-ectomy.”
They currently have another patent, a six year old girl with Mitochondrial diagnosis where they doing the same thing.
BCH has an agenda. Maybe they actually think they are helping these kids. Or maybe they are getting grant money for research. Yes, I can be a bit cynical.
up until a few years ago we have escaped as a county, the evil death/state as a parent cult but now it has infected our country.
up close my 20 gauge would work nicely. over and under. i would enjoy switching it out after reloading. I’m patterning for bird season don’t ya see.
The Fight over Justina: Medical Child Abuse by Parents or Abuse of Power by a Hospital? March 17, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvUevrJ6S5k
i don’t think it is a test case per se. they can already take peoples kids away from their parents. I think this just moves the goal post up to the 40 yard line. They can arbitrarily take your kid by redefining abuse to be any type of medical care. Yes the obamacare death cult needs this precedent and yes same death cult. jim obamacare is being spell checked. add it.
Sorry the are a CH they get money and leeway from the state (heck all States) FIRST and FORMOST
i would say it’s money and reputation as a CH
...........ok, assuming arguendo that everything you say is correct, then what about the other team of doctors......................it seems their opinions are being relegated to the trashcan while the other docs views are elevated to Mt. Rushmore..............???
Again, if the parents were barricaded inside their home and were defying medical opinion that would be one thing. But, they have a team of docs on their side too. I just don’t get that part.
“We have reached the point where a family cannot keep its children. That to me is too far, and extra-judicial means become justified. I will be damned if some judge will tell me I cannot keep my child in my family...Time to take action is now....”
God, HELP US!
You don't have the records of the Tufts doctors, as far as I know they have made no public statements.
I DO know that, if their opinions were exactly as represented by the family, that they would be in court as next friends of the child and would have filed appropriate motions, which, AFAIK, they did not.
They are of course bound to silence, so neither you, nor I, nor anyone else knows what they think.
It is very unlikely, however, that the family's account of what they think is accurate.
The psychologist assigned to the case has a research program somatoform disorder and written four papers on somatoform disorder. In one paper she postulates that as much as 50% pediatric illness is somatoform disorder, in other words they are faked symptoms/disorders.
Queue the video at 17:45...
The Fight over Justina: Medical Child Abuse by Parents or Abuse of Power by a Hospital? (March 17, 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvUevrJ6S5k
[ Truth be known and this women’s career/reputation is finish along with tens of millions in liability, she would rather see Justina die quietly in custody. This women is an Obamacare death panel superstar, that’s what’s at stake. ]
Good points but until more facts can come out I’m going to continue to be just dismayed at the treatment of this kids parents.
If anyone has ever doubted that the USA is now officially a fascist country, then the kidnapping of this child from her natural parents for the sole reason of saving face by a plethora of fascist officials, then all doubts should now be answered by this action.
Now, the parents willingly took her to doctors and then to the hospital. They were trying to help their daughter. Abusers usually don't do that. And then, after taken out of their care after a year she's 100% worse.
Now how could that possibly be their fault? And even if there is a mental issue, whatever, a child, teen needs to see her family. Nothing could make the situation worse.
I don't mean to downplay the holocaust, but in the picture up thread you see she has beautiful hair and is standing on ice skates. Now she practically has her head shaved and her muscles look like they're going to atrophy. She looks like a holocaust victim!
Also, why, if they really think the parents are so bad, don't they try to find her another relative/friends family to look after her? It's like she's being wear housed for no good reason! She should not be getting worse in the states “best” care!!! Have they tried to formally take custody from the parents and terminate all of their rights? Or are they doing this without custody even being established?
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