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Officials Say Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane "Ended in the Southern Indian Ocean"
ABC ^ | 3/24/14 | Colleen Curry

Posted on 03/24/2014 7:47:49 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

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To: TangledUpInBlue

Time to move on. Nothing more to see here. Just forget about it. :-)


41 posted on 03/24/2014 9:30:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: freeangel
Says it all, doesn't it?
What happened to this data (Lea Gabrielle at 01:22 )? The Way Point on the northwet side of her screen is "IGREX" on Jet Route "P628" where the heading changes to a more northerly direction 320 degrees to PORT BLAIR Navaid. That's a total airborne time of about 4 hours 40 minutes from takeoff.

The arc graph shows the estimated range of the aircraft with it's remaining fuel IF it was flying at its MAXIMUM SPEED or 7 hours 30 minutes of fuel.

Now, from the article:

That's 7 hours and 31 minutes after takeoff.
That leaves 2 Hours 50 minutes to travel from "IGREX" on Jet Route "P628 to an undefined point on that arc of 7 hours 30 minutes from takeoff.

Let's say that the pilot leans the engines out to get the most out of his fuel for distance with the remaining time for "IGREX" and gets 3 hours if time,
before he hits his 20 minutes safety margin on fuel and then starts to burn his 1 hour emergency fuel.
At maximum speed of Mach 0.89 (590 mph, 950 km/h, 512 knots) at a cruise altitude of 35,000 ft , that would allow him 1770 miles of distance (to the red arc), before hitting his reserves.

Gen. McInerney also said that if Pakistan didn't speak up soon, they would be complicit.

Now I ask you, if you heard another large jet land at an International Airport that had on average 4 other arrivals all around the same time, would you suspect anything out of the ordinary ?
I just want to inform you that arrivals make a lot less noise than departures.
Also, from an air traffic controller's point of view, there ARE PROCEDURES for clearing a "RADIO OUT" or "NORDO" aircraft to land, and once the aircraft is safely down, it's up to the Airfield Base Operations Officer and the Fire Chief as to how to handle it.
They would probably have to fuel to refuel the 777 with little or no extra coordination.

Now take a close look at the arc map below, three graphics down and center.
Notice that Pakistan is within the "1 Hour Emergency Fuel Range" (second circle around the red arc), past the "20 minute safety fuel (first circle around the red arc).
So it meets the criteria of being within the Red Arc "handshake" or the last ACARS Satellite "ping" and within fuel range of the Boeing 777 to Allama Iqbal Int'l Airport, Pakestan.

It sounded like Gen. McInerney was all but threatening Pakistan to own up to it now, or suffer the consequences.



Someone sent me another piece of information you should read. That's a really good theory. But there's problems when you try to match it with the
the arc graph (click on it for more detailed info) that shows the estimated range of the aircraft with it's remaining fuel IF it was flying at its MAXIMUM SPEED or 7 hours 30 minutes of fuel.

Now, from the article: My problem is ~ I don't know how accurate that Red Arc map is,
and I don't know whether to trust it or not.


Now another point, and PLEASE, PLEASE, tyake a look at the linked sources.
Take a close look at this graphic. In the world of Air Traffic Contgrol, "Attention To Detail" is everything.
Being accurate FIRST is everything.
Being safe is everything.
Speed comes later, but accuracy is a must.

Now for other career fields, accuracy isn't stressed as much.
Now let's ASSUME that, in the speed of getting out the information, that graphic is built on the WRONG degree off of that satellite.
Look what that would do to the search area.

What if a Muslim sympathizer was in the chain of people that disseminated that information.

And take a look at the fuel capacity of the different models of Boeing 777-200,and that can give it a Maximum range (at maximum payload {because MH370 might have weighed less, giving it a LONGER range} ) of from
So the search area may change,we must assume the worst.


It took quite a bit of time to put it together.



Gen. McInerney on the phone with Uma Pemmaraju on America's News HQ at 12:06 Central Time, said he thought the Pakistan Air Force had helped MH370 get into Pakistani Air Space.

I think they are simply "giving up ...".

42 posted on 03/24/2014 9:30:44 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: onedoug

I havent seen a cover up this obvious since Benghazi was declared a “phony scandal” remember that..this PM can hold hands with Hillary Clinton..hey what difference does it make


43 posted on 03/24/2014 9:33:37 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: iontheball
Yet, among the many unanswered questions is what in the world was the plane flying around for 5+ hours in basically the same region and this meandering was not observed on radar or satellite?

Yep --

Somebody onboard turned it south at about 3:11 and it flew for 5 hours probably on auto-pilot and apparently on a single flight vector.

Would a pilot need to be onboard for those last 5 hours or could he have bailed at some point???

44 posted on 03/24/2014 9:39:27 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TangledUpInBlue

While I grieve for the families that lost loved ones, can we get to real news versus speculation now


45 posted on 03/24/2014 9:40:57 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: FAA
And a lot of Freepers who made just as big an ass of themselves as the good General did. However, they’ll ignore it and act like they never mentioned a thing.

Nice try. The plane is in Iran, loaded with a nuke and full fuel tanks. The lifeboat marked with flares is a NWO diversion meant to help the Iranians take us down a peg.

46 posted on 03/24/2014 9:41:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Yosemitest
The Way Point on the northwet side of her screen is "IGREX" on Jet Route "P628" where the heading changes to a more northerly direction 320 degrees to PORT BLAIR Navaid.

Sorry but "IGREX" is the waypoint where the plane went south -- along with the General's reputation.

47 posted on 03/24/2014 9:44:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Further information ...

MH370: Families Called to Urgent Meeting; Malaysia Press Conference 10 a.m. EDT 3/24/14
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136667/posts

MALAYSIAN AUTHORITIES: The Plane Crashed With No Survivors
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136697/posts

Malaysia Grand Prix pushes grieving families of jet passengers from hotel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136731/posts


48 posted on 03/24/2014 9:47:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

It was the Brits that did this - through Inmarsat ...


49 posted on 03/24/2014 9:48:25 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: clintonh8r

I think Inmarsat doesn’t have an “axe to grind” in this case ...


50 posted on 03/24/2014 9:49:16 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: driftdiver

Actually, it was Inmarsat ... and I think they’ve got quite a bit of money ... :-) ...


51 posted on 03/24/2014 9:50:18 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Progov

Well, In,arhat gives the searchers - which includes the USA and Australia - a real good place to put their resources for actually finding it.


52 posted on 03/24/2014 9:51:29 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

That was “Inmarsat”

http://www.inmarsat.com


53 posted on 03/24/2014 9:52:29 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: freeangel

That theory has been DISCREDITED now!


54 posted on 03/24/2014 9:53:33 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: onedoug

But ... I don’t think the Brits or Inmarsat are lying ...


55 posted on 03/24/2014 9:54:23 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: chopperman

I’m sure we’ll be hearing about that in the days to come!


56 posted on 03/24/2014 9:55:05 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: virgil

I don’t believe from all the data we’ve received thus far that this is a problem with the plane. It’s a problem with the pilots ... :-) ...


57 posted on 03/24/2014 9:56:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Uncle Chip
And you believe that MH370 went south based on what?
The only thing they have is the 40 degree arc off of the communications satellite.
How accurate is that?
That same arc crosses the flight path of SIA68 (Singapore Airlines flight 68) and that aircraft is also a Boeing 777.
Do you believe that because Pakistan was WITHIN "safety Margin of 20 minutes fuel" and the "One Hour Fuel reserve at Maximum Speed, it was NOT possible that MH370 went NorthWest instead of going "South" ?
Also what does MH370 going north to "IGREX" do to his available mileage distance possibilities of reaching the South Arc Intersection of that 40 degrees ?
Doesn't it take the Southern 40 degree Arc Intersection ~ "Out of Range" ?
58 posted on 03/24/2014 9:57:23 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

With this latest data - it doesn’t look like it ...


59 posted on 03/24/2014 9:57:50 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: outofsalt

He looks like an alien ... LOL ...


60 posted on 03/24/2014 9:58:37 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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