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1 posted on 03/24/2014 7:17:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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When my mother heard of the breakthrough by Jonas Salk in developing a vaccination against polio, she fell to her knees and thanked God for his mercy. We, today, have absolutely no conception of the rank fear that gathered in the breasts of parents prior to the polio vaccine.

My family does.

2 posted on 03/24/2014 7:37:37 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember, in the second grade, my class and other classes in my school were sent home because a child had been diagnosed with polio. Two weeks later, when we returned, we found out that two of our classmates would not be coming back as they were never going to walk again. Polio left them paralyzed.
It scared the geebees out of me. I was so thankful the following year when they announced a polio vaccine and we lined up to receive our polio shots. As a 7 or 8 year old kid, I think that was the only time I wanted a shot.


3 posted on 03/24/2014 7:38:06 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is Not Wanting to Vaccinate a Parental Right?

Yes.

If it is not then we open the door to the state being able to tell us what kind of medical treatments we must give our children.

Soon we end up with things like what happened to Justina Pelletie happening with no place to appeal.

Once you say a parent must do what the state wants in an area it is not long before you have no rights at all in that area.

4 posted on 03/24/2014 7:45:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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People are so hateful about this issue so it doesn’t get anywhere.

It’s black and white, no questions asked, when, in fact, it is grey.

Parents have a responsibility to not expose kids their own children go to school with. That is where the fight starts.

If we were to approach it from the point of view that people, parents, could have domain over their own health and that of their children, it could be discussed rationally. But people have given responsibility of their health over to the medical community, and, now, the government.
If it were discussed, people could make decisions and choices.

A school has the right to expect basic protection for their kids and should have the option of requiring vaccination

Day care center planning sets the schedule to some degree.

Parents do have the right to choose vaccination, societal pressure takes that away. I few were to look at the schedule of vaccination form an intelligent point of view, it could be managed. Look at research. look at how other countries manage it, particularly countries whose citizens use their freedom to collaborate with medicine industry to make choices. for ex., when I, a health care professional, ask the pediatrician why my newborn needs a hepB shot one hour after birth, I get humiliation, berating, refusal, abuse and condescension, in front of my spouse. But the question is not answered. That’s where Obamacare is apparent. Not Obamacare itself, but its roots.

In researching when Japanese or German kids get their shots, weighed against incidence of disease outbreaks/management there is no reason a kid who’s staying home with mom for five years needs to have five painful shots one hour after birth, taxing his immune system.

Then there’s the conversation that needs to be had regarding additives. WE know the pharmaceutical industry is a huge liar. We know they are not about healing but about thriving on illness. We know they and the FDA work together and without us. We know the medical industry cares nothing for parents’ concerns, and they treat people who ask questions with more suspicion and ridicule than the IRS does a conservative. And we know the pharmaceutical industry has some bad mistakes on their record.

We know there is a high rate of autism. Baby boomers like me knew kids, we grew up in a kids world, cat in the hat no parents, six kids to a family. Now with two kids to a family we know, I know kids with autism, boys, at a rate now of 600% more than what we knew growing up.

Everyone can yell and deny, but that doesn’t fix the problem NOR cause us to pretend it’s not true.

If we could look at all of this, we could get to what is causing that, and we could look at the unnecessary incidence of ultrasound on fetuses. Unless there is reason to believe there could and should be prenatal surgery done on the fetus, an ultrasound is unnecessary. No one looks at this. But bombarding these kids with ultrasound waves can not be good for them, just at least.


5 posted on 03/24/2014 7:55:31 AM PDT by stanne
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“Colorado has the sixth-highest rate of non-vaccinated public school kindergarteners”

Loony toon hippies abound in Colorado.

It’s pretty bad for us as a society and nation now in that many ostensible conservatives share the same irrational beliefs about vaccines.


13 posted on 03/24/2014 8:57:24 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: SeekAndFind

There clearly is a limit to the right of a parent regarding the treatment of their children. The question is where to draw that line.

For example, we require parents to feed and clothe their children — a parent can’t decide that their child does not need food, or does not need water, or does not need shelter.

Beyond that, most people would agree that a parent can’t refuse to give a child medicine for a known disease.

So where is the line? Can a parent refuse to take a child to the doctor if they are sick? Can a parent refuse an operation if a doctor says it is necessary? Can a parent refuse all vaccinations? Can they refuse some, but not others? Can they refuse ANY?

Can a parent refuse to teach their children at all, and refuse to send them to school? Can the state force kids to school, or do parents have the right to teach them at home? If so, can parents refuse to administer tests to children to show they are learning?

Does the state have some right to tell parents WHAT a child should eat? Or should parents have the right to feed their child anything they want?

I’m guessing that if we made a list of 20 things where the state wants to impose rules on parents, that even here at a conservative web site, we would not all agree on the correct answers for those 20 things.

At some point, children should have a right to receive appropriate medical treatment, regardless of how their parents feel. The question for me is HOW you determine what medical treatment must be given.

I’ve always felt a conflict when I’ve read of a small child dying because their parents had a religious belief that God would heal their child, and therefore refused to get treatment.


18 posted on 03/24/2014 9:39:40 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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