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What the Heck… Karl Rove Warns Republicans to Stop Attacking Obamacare?
wizbangblog.com ^ | 3/21/14

Posted on 03/21/2014 11:03:42 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: cotton1706

What ever that little back stabbing opportunist says, do the opposite.
The dumb little jerk.


21 posted on 03/21/2014 11:18:12 AM PDT by crz
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To: cotton1706

Effe Porky Pig Rove.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 11:19:05 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Huh? What? Ridiculous.


23 posted on 03/21/2014 11:19:21 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: cotton1706

Well, as much as I dislike Rove, I think he has a point, and it is this:

People DO hate Obamacare, because of what it is doing. BUT - people like the IDEA of it - the idea that the government, if it does things right, can make purple unicorns come to your house and sh*t Skittles onto your lawn.

Rove is probably right that candidates who attack the fantasy won’t do as well as candidates who pretend that the GOP CAN insure preexisting conditions and give out free stuff better than the Democrats.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 11:21:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: cotton1706
Deal with it. RINOs WANT OBAMACARE ! It was written so insurance companies and other companies associated with it would profit. They'll use it as a campaign issue, sure, and when it's over say "oops...it's too late to get rid of Obamacare"

If we're goin' down as a nation anyway, why let RINOs who never represented us anyway be in power?

25 posted on 03/21/2014 11:21:22 AM PDT by grania
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To: cotton1706

Karl Rove is an idiot.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 11:21:55 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: cotton1706
To rephrase a quote from FR years ago...

"Rove you magnificent STUPID bastard!"

27 posted on 03/21/2014 11:23:58 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I don't care if you can point to some poll that says Obamacare's popularity has moved from 12% to 12.47% or such.

It is an abomination that limits my God-given right to secure my own health care options for me and my family. It steals my freedom from me and as it grows it will make steal more and more of the fruits of my labor.

I will stand against it and vote for those that do. Damn Obama. Damn Rove. And damn your polls.

28 posted on 03/21/2014 11:24:29 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Axenolith

Agreed!!!!!!


29 posted on 03/21/2014 11:24:39 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: cotton1706
"Maybe we are seeing that Karl Rove is a lover of big government after all?"  photo bear_woods2_zps59dc3e21.jpg
30 posted on 03/21/2014 11:25:30 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: cotton1706

Karl....STFU... You freakin’ Honey Boo-Boo look-a-like.


31 posted on 03/21/2014 11:28:12 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: cotton1706
I think the author of the piece has misinterpreted what Rove wrote. Rove wasn't saying that Republicans should confine themselves to just tinkering with Obamacare, but that Republicans should come out with their own, workable, alternative to Obamacare. The pickings are easy on that because there were plenty of problems with the health care system pre-Obamacare, most of them caused by government. For example, repeal Obamacare and repeal the McCarran–Ferguson Act. The second will allow a lot more beneficial, consumer-friendly, competition into the health insurance market, which will tend to drive premiums down, particularly with Obamacare repealed as well.

That is why he makes the following statement further down in the article:
The Senate GOP, spurred in part by Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, has wisely developed a seven-point "Jobs for America" plan that includes market-based health-care reforms, ....

and concludes with this:
Americans will hire a party to run things when its ideas are fresh and new and fire it when they believe it's run out of ideas and has an agenda they don't like.

In other words, it's not enough to just attack Obamacare without putting up your own positive alternative; if all you do is attack Obamacare then you're proving that you're as out of fresh ideas and thus no better than the Democrats.

I hardly see that as a negative sentiment.
32 posted on 03/21/2014 11:29:09 AM PDT by Oceander
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To: cotton1706

Of course “he” wants it. They all want it, it’s the 09 bailout of the failed 08 MBS bailout lie “recovery”, and all who were connected to it.

BIG

Banks. (so called “banks”)
Insurance. (so called “insurance’)
Government. their big pensions and investment managers in Qe.


33 posted on 03/21/2014 11:29:20 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: cotton1706

Karl Rove is scum.


34 posted on 03/21/2014 11:30:01 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: cotton1706

I thought that David Jolly showed the way in his special election win earlier this year...he said REPEAL and REPLACE, so that he couldn’t be accused of advocating the “pre-Obamacare status quo”.


35 posted on 03/21/2014 11:32:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Noble

The fact of the matter, from what I know personally from decades in the past - is that people have ALWAYS wanted pre-existing conditions covered on their insurance. The only problem with that - is - they don’t want to pay for it! ... LOL ...


36 posted on 03/21/2014 11:35:16 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: cincinnati65

So funny. I remember Rove talking about meeting GW for the first time. He described him in loving detail coming out of his red convertible and looking so sharp in his cowboy boots. Bromance!


37 posted on 03/21/2014 11:36:35 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Oceander

That’s how I took it as well...and to that extent, it is quite correct.

It’s how to do that where we may disagree with Rove, but this idea is basic politics.


38 posted on 03/21/2014 11:36:53 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Karl Rove is just trying to level the playing field for the Democrats again, as the Republicans should stay sharp ONLY on the issues that are allowed to be on the table. “Settled law” is a sacrosanct ideal, and should not be disturbed, because it stirs up WAY too many emotions, and high emotions are not a way to rational debate.

Above all, Karl Rove wants to keep the debate “rational”, even though this is not an objective shared by the Democrats. Democrats can show all the emotion they want in the debate, and Republicans are just supposed to be the “calm” influence in the room.

Doesn’t matter if the psychotic adolescents are spraying live ammunition at you, you must at all times remain calm and try to reason with the psychotic adolescents. No shooting back allowed.

Self preservation is always a rational response, and if that includes disarming or totally incapacitating the psychos, then that is what must be done.

And Obamacare is a live grenade spinning around on the floor.


39 posted on 03/21/2014 11:38:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: cotton1706

“...Sabato also pointed out the minority of the public that does favor Obamacare is not very enthusiastic about it, a possible recipe for disaster in midterm elections....”
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Just wait until the folks currently enrolled in Obamacare get their renewal notices (with huge premium increases for their current Obamacare plan) this fall. I think the notices have to go out 90 days in advance of the change effective date of January 1, 2015 (unless, of course, somehow Obama circumvents that requirement as he has for so many related to the disaster known as Obamacare).

Does anyone know for sure what the “advance notification” requirement for policy changes?


40 posted on 03/21/2014 11:40:20 AM PDT by House Atreides
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