Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: CorporateStepsister

I stand by my position that anti-death penalty is a conservative principle. The State should never have this much power and the fact that innocents have been executed should be enough to stop this practice.

And yes. I prosecuted my fair share of death penalty cases. But the power to the State AND killing the innocent is not overcome by the horror perpetrated by some of these Defendants.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 3:47:07 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: RIghtwardHo

You can’t throw the baby out with the bath water.


21 posted on 03/19/2014 3:51:36 PM PDT by Autonomous User
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

Ray Jasper's 7 page letter to the Gawker written Feb. 15, 2014.

Basically it was everyones fault but his.

Summary of Incident

On 11/29/98, Jasper and two co-defendants were responsible for the death of a 33-year old white male, which took place during a robbery. The victim was a musical engineer who owned a recording studio in San Antonio. Jasper had created his own record label and had his own rap group. Jasper went to the recording studio of the victim. He walked up behind the victim and grabbed him by the hair and slit his throat. The victim was then stabbed to death. Jasper covered the victim with a black sheet in order to "not have to look at him." Jasper then began loading vehicles with the equipment inside the studio, estimated to be worth between $10,000 and $30,000. Jasper and his codefendants made several trips taking the property from the studio, and upon returning to the scene of the crime, he was observed to be suspicious, and eventually apprehended by police.

22 posted on 03/19/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by deport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo
...the fact that innocents have been executed ...

Name one.

How many innocents have died because they were murdered by those who were undeterred due to the uncertainty of execution?

26 posted on 03/19/2014 4:27:55 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo
“But the power to the State AND killing the innocent is not overcome by the horror perpetrated by some of these Defendants.”

It is, however, the only deterrent that NEVER fails. None of them commit additional crimes - and that can't be said about ANY other sentence that has been passed!

31 posted on 03/19/2014 4:33:18 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo

I stand by my position that anti-death penalty is a conservative principle.


Who chose you as our spokesman?

Anti-Death Penalty is YOUR principle. You don’t dictate our beliefs.


35 posted on 03/19/2014 4:58:38 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo

........I recently wrote on FR about how I had been pro death penalty all my life without reservation. Now, I do not think our courts are competent to put people to death in situations where there is “circumstantial evidence” and/or testimony from witnesses that are less than reliable.

In this guys case, there is apparently no doubt he did what he was convicted of so, that being true, I would load the needle myself.

But, with all due respect, I want to question that there is some absolute bullet proof evidence that someone has been executed mistakenly. I am not saying your wrong. I’m just saying ‘is there any proof’ you can cite as I can’t recall any such proof ever being laid on the table.


38 posted on 03/19/2014 5:48:28 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo

I am a total conservative, and I used to work at San Quentin, so you might guess where I stand on the issue.


42 posted on 03/19/2014 6:16:30 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo
"I stand by my position that anti-death penalty is a conservative principle. The State should never have this much power and the fact that innocents have been executed should be enough to stop this practice."

Even given my mistrust of our legal system, I stand by my contention that the death penalty is life affirming. Anything less devalues the life of the victim. Unless the ultimate penalty is applied for the cold blooded, premeditated taking of an innocent life, one embarks on a slippery slope of assessing how much less than the ultimate penalty should be applied for the taking of the victim's life. In some European countries 15 years is deemed the "ultimate penalty." Once you start accepting or negotiating it down to something less, you start playing with the relative worth of the victim.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the death penalty ought to be on the table for any crime in which the victim would have been justified resisting with lethal force. In such cases, it is the criminal who decided the fruits of the crime were worth more than his or her life. I'm not saying it should be applied in all such cases, but it should certainly be an option, particularly in the case of repeat violent offenders.

I do agree that there are problems with wrongful prosecutions, and the easy remedy to that is that prosecutors who are found to have covered up exculpatory evidence, suborned perjury or exercised any other type of bad faith be automatically subject to the same penalty they sought upon their conviction...

47 posted on 03/19/2014 6:34:42 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo

These are your words, sir: “the fact that innocents have been executed should be enough to stop this practice.”

DuncanWaring in post 26 asks that you name one person who has been put to death and who was not guilty. It’s time to tell us where we went wrong, just once.


50 posted on 03/19/2014 7:42:37 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: RIghtwardHo; OldPossum

Still waiting for the name of one “executed innocent”.


53 posted on 03/23/2014 7:21:05 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson