Russia, Putin, Ukraine: Some Background

[notpoliticallycorewrecked]

ping for later read.

[kabar]

It is a 53 page report. This is just a brief summary.

[Revolting cat!]

Who’s paying me? Thank you for asking. George Soros and Alex Jones.

[FreeReign]

The future of the Ukrainian people clearly lies with Russia.

All you Ukrainians, 80% of whom don't want to belong to us, belong to us.

[fabian]

“George Soros, Monsanto, and the US state department to just walk off with the Ukraine is idiotic.”
No evidence of that given...yet we know that economically, the Ukrainians are tired of a corrupt government and were willing to die to change it. You sound like you have bough the communist line their.

[Girlene]

There is nothing to admire in Putin. He is a KGB thug who has somehow managed to acquire great wealth during his “reign”. He is a narcissistic fool running around pretending to save people from attacking tigers, etc. He is an unconvincing liar claiming that he is saving Crimea/Ukraine Russians from fascists as he invades a sovereign nation.

People may admire Putin because he is decisive, he knows how to use his power/influence. The same could be said for any number of powerful leaders - Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, etc.

[mvonfr]

I mean, if I've missed anything or left anything important out here or gotten anything wrong, somebody let me know, but this is the picture I'm seeing

Some minor errors, yes, but otherwise very good work. For instance, Malorossia is not exactly the same as Ukraine, actually it is the South-Eastern part of Ukraine, this is important: we may yet see a Malorossian state emerging from the ruins of Ukraine in its S-E part. And tracing Ukrainian to Kiev and Russian to Suzdal is an oversimplification.

[varmintman]

why do you support it? why do you support an invasion of a sovereign nation?

Do you find being an idiot painful?

[Mount Athos]

Who is supporting it? The voices in your head?

You want to people to respond to fabrications you are making up?

[RitchieAprile]

cool locomotive pics. look like they’d be a bit top heavy in a turn though.

[Navy Patriot]

96 out of 100.

[varmintman]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10704048/Tanks-and-trenches-to-defend-Ukraine-from-Russia.html

"But as Ukraine's dilapidated tank units moved to muddy berms in the fields south of Donetsk city as part of face-saving mobilisation, the guns of T-64 and T-72 models were this time pointed towards Russia.

In responding to a reported Russian military build-up, however, Ukraine's military immediately ran into groups of activists who tried to obstruct their movements. In the village of Elenvola on the edge of the great plain, there was anger at the manoeuvres from their own countrymen.

"Russians and Ukrainians don't want to fight each other," said Ivan Inozemev, a prison warder. "We would be happy to be part of Russia if that's what happens."

I mean, does that sound like the guy is terribly worried about being taken over and enslaved by Vladimir Putin and his Russian hordes??

[kabar]

I lived two years in Communist Poland during the rise of Solidarnosc. It is disgusting to see so-called conservatives praising and extolling a KGB agent. They have no idea of the suffering and destruction visited upon millions by the Russian communists and their lackeys.

I assume that the reason that some of these Freepers hold Putin in such high regard that he is making a fool out of Obama. The problem is that we must live with the consequences. We are very close to hostilities in the Ukraine. And the impact will not be confined to just Ukraine and Russia.

[Marguerite]

The three problems the US have with Vladimir Putin:

They can't bluff him,

They can't bully or intimidate him, and

They can't bankrupt him.

Since the last military operation in Afghanistan, at the time of Soviet Union in 1980, Russia hasn't invaded any country, contrary to the allegations in the Western media. Russia didn't "invade" Chechenya, wich was included in the Imperial Russia in 1859.

Russia didn't "invade" South Ossetia, which was an automoumous provice and declared independence at the break of the Soviet Union in 1991, and it's still an independent Republic, not part of Russia.

Russia didn't "invade" Crimea, it already had there some 17,000 troops according to the treaty signed with Ukraine in 1994. Crimea has been part of Catherine the Great' Imperial Russia since 1774.

Contrary to the West allegations, that V.Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union, this is not his goal. What he wants is to regain the greatness of Russia as set up by the great precursors Peter and Cathrine II, at the end of 18th century, but a new, modern Russia. It is not a coincidence that the Russian Federation adopted the Imperial Russia's colors and coat of arms.

At that time the actual Eastern and South Ukraine, called "Malorussia" (Little Russia) was integral part of the Russian Empire since 1654, the natural border being on Dniepr river.

With this data in mind, one can understand Putin's foreign policy. He is not interested in Latvians , Poles or other Romanians, but only in rebuilding his country prosperity and greatness as he understands it.

[varmintman]

You need to cut back on the reefer. Ukrainian forces in the Crimea do not constitute a “sovereign nation(TM)”. The Crimea was illegally gifted to Ukraine in 54 by Khrushchev and 90+ percent of Crimeans just voted to rejoin Russia. That’s as simple as it gets.

[Girlene]

Do you support the invasion?

[dfwgator]

I understand, but I have also heard some Poles express concerns that the “Banderowcy” have too much sway in the new Ukrainian government. And while the Russian propaganda may be exaggerating it to a degree, the facts I see suggest that as a Pole I would be bit concerned about that. Anyone who would consider Bandera as a hero, is as evil as any Russian Communist.

[virgil]

Well, Obama is a fool and he’s making America look weak everytime he does or says anything. He’s a puss.

[sockmonkey]

I see you posted a pic or Nadezhda Tolokonnikova of Pussy Riot in your collection. Do you feel she was treated unjustly for her actions in The Cathedral in Moscow?

Does her promotion of abortion, and homosexuality-LGBT, and other western values give her a pass when she invades a place of Worship?

[Girlene]

Russia invaded Crimea.