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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 March 2014
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 16 March 2014 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 03/16/2014 5:22:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



March 16th, 2014

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn.; Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn.; Bill Gates.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee; Cmdr. William Marks, spokesman for the Navy's 7th Fleet, which is involved in the search for the missing Malaysian Airlines jet.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; mh370; sunday; talkshows
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To: Fishtalk

Great post. I’m getting there myself. Too many unanswered questions that should be known.


121 posted on 03/16/2014 8:15:58 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: bray

I would agree.In Miami they tried monorails. They worked well at night for criminals. The gangs took them over really quick.


122 posted on 03/16/2014 8:17:41 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk; rodguy911
...a satellite somewhere can find my Jeep....boom, wherever it is...in what? Seconds?

That was the first thing out of my mouth in a discussion with cohorts. They should have had a Chevy airplane....with Onstar.

(Actually the second...the first was a portable Bermuda Triangle)

123 posted on 03/16/2014 8:18:40 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Fishtalk

You don’t think they would all be protecting the Moosie pilot do you?


124 posted on 03/16/2014 8:20:13 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: rodguy911

Rodguy911. Please reread the posting again. Take your time. Imagine 60+ satellites in orbit around the earth all evenly spaced. Each satellite can receive a signal from a 250 mile circle on the surface of the earth. As the satellite moves in orbit, the circle on the surface moves with it. Now imagine 60 other circles just like this also moving over the surface of the earth. As the 777 flys out over the Indian Ocean it is flying through these moving circles. The folks at Iridium Corp. know where each satellite is and has been. As the 777 flys out over the Indian Ocean it is flying through these moving Iridium circles. Each time the 777 pings, the Iridium folks can see the ping and know which satellite received the ping. Since they know which satellite recieved the ping and the time it received the ping they know where on the surface of the earth the circle is located. With one ping it is within the 250 mile circle. With multiple pings they can reconstruct a very accurate ground track. Hope that helps.


125 posted on 03/16/2014 8:22:02 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14
Where is Boeing? Where is Rolls Royce? Where is Iridium Corp.? None of these folks have been heard from.

They haven't been heard from by us but I'm sure others have heard from them.

Early on while they were still searching the waters to the east, US naval vessels were dispatched to the Indian Ocean where the search is concentrating now -- so somebody talked and somebody listened.

The problem here is that this is officially a Malaysian investigation and unless called in to assist no other country can or will get officially involved. One just wonders what information Indonesia has from its satellite data that it has or has not shared with Malaysia.

However given that this southern arc would have taken it off the coast of Australia, I'm sure Aussies have been searching there and called in US naval assistance for that search.

126 posted on 03/16/2014 8:25:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Fishtalk

Since this is a Sunday morning talk show thread, let me talk about a Sunday morning talk show.

For it was perchance that I switched to CBS and there was Face the Nation. They had some Indian guy on there talking about the airplane so I wanted to hear.

Guy gets to say about one sentence before the very up to date Bob Schieffer cuts him off and says, I am not making this up...

“Let’s talk about Syria,” he says and with that I threw down my dish towel and screamed to the cats...”BY ALL MEANS LET’S TALK ABOUT SYRIA”....sheesh, I mean Syria is all in the news this week in front of missing airplanes and world invasions.

It was just so obvious that somebody at CBS wanted this on the air and it’s so freaking lame. I switched the channel in exasperation.

NEXT week I might want to talk about Syria but CBS thought it should be front and center and THIS is what’s wrong with the media.

I suspect they got a memo from the White House but I dunno.


127 posted on 03/16/2014 8:25:16 AM PDT by Fishtalk (Join me on Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/patricia.fish.5)
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To: bray; rodguy911

Here’s the problem.

Elections are battles not wars. If you win the battle, you automatically EXPECT to get something for your effort.

But—

The young people of the then-Soviet Union won their battle in 1991 as they turned the tanks around and beat back the Gang of Eight and bolshevism with it.

But what did they get with the restoration of Russia? More repression, a police state, bloody elitist rule yet again.

In 2010, the Tea Party routed Demoviks and RINOs across the land. But what did we get? John Boehner—more insider, elitist rule and a government angling us further into a soft police state.

We can win all the “battles” in 2014 and lose anyway.


128 posted on 03/16/2014 8:25:21 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Fishtalk
-- ...a satellite somewhere can find my Jeep....boom, wherever it is...in what? Seconds? --

That uses a different method. Your Jeep has a GPS in it, and the GPS in your Jeep finds its location with help from the GPS array. Your Jeep reports the location it "finds itself" at, typically via cell service, but could be by satellite, to whoever has the key/right to knowing the location of your Jeep.

Planes have GPS too, but I suspect that was turned off.

-- an engineer who can write for God's sakes... --

Heheheh. A frightening thought! Speaking as an engineer.

129 posted on 03/16/2014 8:25:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Fishtalk
Since this is a Sunday morning talk show thread, let me talk about a Sunday morning talk show.

Bwhahahahaha!

130 posted on 03/16/2014 8:26:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Cboldt

The GPS data would have been part of the subscription service that the airline did subscribe to. The subscription service costs about $1000/month/airplane.


131 posted on 03/16/2014 8:29:35 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14
60 by 250 mile diameter circles doesn't cover the earth. 250 mile diameter circle has an area of about 50,000 square miles. The area of the earth is about 200,000,000 square miles.

That 250 mile circle is one of multiple "spots" viewed by each satellite. Each satellite can see (IIRC, from a post above) some 2300 mile diameter circle, which is covered by multiple "spots".

Your principle of being able to track is okay, the satellite network knows which spot(s) are getting signal, and can track signal motion across the face of the earth. Just a nitpick about how many 250 mile diameter spots are involved (many more than 60).

132 posted on 03/16/2014 8:32:07 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Whoops. Typo. The airline did NOT subscribe to the Boeing AHM data subscription service that would have provided GPS data via the Iridium link.


133 posted on 03/16/2014 8:32:14 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Its getting interesting....


134 posted on 03/16/2014 8:32:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: robert14

A second confirmation is always better than the first.
What is your guess?Do they have multiple pings to work with? Can they refine the location to smaller than 250 square miles? What do you think. Having been there many times.Also let me ask you do many fellow pilots have simulators at their homes?Is that common?


135 posted on 03/16/2014 8:36:26 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: robert14
-- Typo. The airline did NOT subscribe to the Boeing AHM data subscription service that would have provided GPS data via the Iridium link. --

I think there are two separable points there. First, does the reporting system include GPS (and related, can the GPS part be independently disabled); and then, does Boeing share the AHM data with a subscriber.

My impression is that RR and Boeing get the AHM data, period. They pay for it in the first place. The airline can get a copy of it if they pay Boeing.

I haven't read anything about the AHM data including GPS coordinates, just engine-relevant performance information.

136 posted on 03/16/2014 8:36:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

You are correct to a point. If you ever used an Iridium phone you will loose the link from time to time. That only says that we may have missed some of the pings. However, 5 or 6 pings is about the right number to reconstruct a ground track.


137 posted on 03/16/2014 8:37:01 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14
Thanks for your explanation. Very insightful.

5. It finally ran out of fuel and ditched without the gear being lowered. Since the gear was not lowered we never got the final ACARS data report.

100% layman here. Can the ACARS be turned off? Maybe that's why the gear down signal was never received?

138 posted on 03/16/2014 8:39:06 AM PDT by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: rodguy911
Too many unanswered questions that should be known.

I like the newest conjecture from Officials:



139 posted on 03/16/2014 8:41:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Son House

Lois Lerner has had no intention of serving America, only serving the Democrat party.

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Oh I doubt she’s doing what she’s doing for lofty-minded Progressive/Democrat party ‘ideals’ any more. She’s “serving” whoever has made the most believable, serious threat to her “life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness” since the IRS/ObamaThug scheme was exposed.


140 posted on 03/16/2014 8:41:26 AM PDT by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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