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Issa to Cummings: You’re wrong. We can hold Lois Lerner in contempt
Daily Caller ^ | 3-14-2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 03/14/2014 12:48:10 PM PDT by smoothsailing

March 14, 2014

Issa to Cummings: You’re wrong. We can hold Lois Lerner in contempt

Patrick Howley

In a sternly-worded letter to Rep. Elijah Cummings — and obtained by The Daily Caller — Rep. Darrell Issa said that his House Oversight Committee is well within its rights to hold ex-IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt despite Cummings’ arguments to the contrary.

“On March 12, 2014, you sent a letter to Speaker Boehner arguing that the House of Representatives is barred ‘from successfully pursuing contempt proceedings against former IRS official Lois Lerner,’” Issa wrote. “Your position was based on an allegedly ‘independent legal analysis’ provided by your lawyer, Stanley M. Brand, and your ‘Legislative Consultant,’ Morton Rosenberg,” he wrote.

Brand and Rosenberg claimed that Lerner was not “made unequivocally certain that her failure to respond would result in criminal contempt prosecution.” But Issa strongly disagreed.

“You and your lawyers and consultants are wrong on the facts and the law,” Issa wrote. “The Facts: Lerner knew that the Committee had rejected her privilege objection and that, consequently, she risked contempt should she persist in refusing to answer the Committee’s questions.”

Though Oversight member Rep. Jim Jordan confirmed to TheDC that the committee is “moving” toward contempt for Lerner, Cummings’ recent letter to Boehner was widely reported on in the mainstream press to bolster the story that the committee is unable to compel Lerner to testify.

But Issa’s letter walks Cummings step-by-step through flaws in the Democrats’ argument.

“You and your lawyers and consultants also misunderstand the law. Contrary to your insistence, the courts do not require the invocation by the Committee of certain magic words; rather (and sensibly), the courts have required only that congressional committees provide witnesses with a ‘fair appraisal of the committee’s ruling on an objection,’ thereby leaving the witness with a choice: comply with the relevant committee’s demand for testimony, or risk contempt,” Issa wrote.

“You and your lawyers and consultants refer specifically to Quinn v. United States. In that case, however, the Supreme Court held only that, because ‘[a]t no time did the committee [at issue there] specifically overrule [the witness’s] objection based on the Fifth Amendment,’ the witness ‘was left to guess whether or not the committee had accepted his objection.’

Here, of course, the Committee expressly rejected Lerner’s objection, and specifically notified Lerner and her counsel of the same: She was left to guess at nothing,” Issa wrote.

“Second, Quinn expressly rejects your insistence on the talismanic incantation by the Committee of certain magic words: ‘[T]he committee is not required to resort to any fixed verbal formula to indicate its disposition of the objection. So long as the witness is not forced to guess the committee’s ruling, he has no cause to complain,’” Issa wrote.


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1 posted on 03/14/2014 12:48:10 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

THEN DO IT ALREADY, DAMMIT!


2 posted on 03/14/2014 12:49:29 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: smoothsailing

Issa’s quick.

It’s been, what? How long since we’ve known about this? Long enough to think it’s part of the Constitution and Lincoln was the first democrat president to sic the IRS on people?

Oh, that’s right, Lincoln was a Republican.

Someone should send their pet cat in to do Isaa’s job. It would be more efficient.


3 posted on 03/14/2014 12:52:47 PM PDT by stanne
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To: US Navy Vet

Precisely. If “we can” doesn’t quickly translate to “we will/we are”, then why posture?


4 posted on 03/14/2014 12:52:59 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: US Navy Vet

I’m right there with ya! Stop the back and forth already and just do it. No more talking. We need action, NOW!!


5 posted on 03/14/2014 12:54:21 PM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: US Navy Vet
THEN DO IT ALREADY, DAMMIT!

BTTT!

“I am not persuaded by the legal musings of two attorneys,” said Oversight member Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), a lawyer himself. “Uttering certain talismanic words is not required before finding someone in contempt for the failure to answer questions. … Ms. Lerner was not going to answer any questions — regardless of whether she was directed to or not.”

Republican Oversight spokesman Frederick Hill called it partisan and “deeply flawed and at odds with the House’s own expert legal counsel to the committee.”

6 posted on 03/14/2014 12:55:09 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: smoothsailing

:: Rep. Jim Jordan confirmed to TheDC that the committee is “moving” toward contempt ::

And, THERE, you have it; movement toward contempt.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 12:56:18 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: smoothsailing

So what? Holder wears his contempt citation like a badge of honor. The House should arrest Lerner and hold her is whatever passes for a Congressional jail and then we would see if Obama would send in his enforcers to break her out.


8 posted on 03/14/2014 12:56:43 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: smoothsailing
Girl fight!!!!

"Sternly worded letters" are the lawyer equivalent of hair pulling and scratching.

9 posted on 03/14/2014 12:58:03 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: smoothsailing

Just remember folks, Cummings comes from the CBC wherein a female congresswoman believes the USA constitution is 400 years old, a newly elected senator that says he drove to Hawaii and a POTUS that believes the USA is made up of 57 states. Go figure!!!


10 posted on 03/14/2014 12:59:57 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: smoothsailing

What are the Republicans going to do when they have run of the Senate?

Oh, yeah, the same thing they do with majority in the House. Hire some do nothing to be the leader and hang out with lobbyists and the Chamber of Commerce, schmooze them with amnesty promises, allow the dems to be in charge and ruin our country and our childrens’ lives

Hmm. They wonder why conservatives don’t vote.

Anyone making fun of Green Eggs and Ham should read it. It might remind them of whom these guys are working for and get a little humility.

Issa.

BLECh!


11 posted on 03/14/2014 1:01:02 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Olog-hai

It’s an election year and the drums must be pounded? I hope he means business. Would be glad if someone is held accountable.


12 posted on 03/14/2014 1:02:21 PM PDT by Ms. Blunt
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To: smoothsailing

ZING!


13 posted on 03/14/2014 1:02:27 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: smoothsailing

Issa blows more smoke than Snoop Dog..


14 posted on 03/14/2014 1:03:31 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: US Navy Vet

THEN DO IT ALREADY, DAMMIT!

/echo


15 posted on 03/14/2014 1:04:51 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Truth29
Yep, Holder committed clear and unequivocal perjury. He continues to withhold F&F documents. The absolute only thing the left understands isn't words; it is countervailing FORCE.
16 posted on 03/14/2014 1:05:45 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
when you gotta issue contempt, issue contempt! don't talk.


17 posted on 03/14/2014 1:06:08 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

They are apparently constipated as the so-called movement has yet to produce anything.


18 posted on 03/14/2014 1:08:24 PM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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19 posted on 03/14/2014 1:09:59 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I wish I had nematocysts. They’d be great in a fight.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 1:14:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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