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To: diogenes ghost
TWA800 WAS a mechanical failure. Quit drinking conspiracy Kool-Aid.

The US Navy has HUNDREDS of planes every day slamming on carrier decks --what if a spontaneous explosion happened on a CARRIER, loaded with fuel and ordnance..?

The US Navy rightfully wondered about that, and performed many test on their a/c after TWA800 --over 100 times then even dumped entire HIBACHIS full of briquettes, tossed flaming rags, etc into full tanks, 1/2 full tanks, almost empty tanks, and what did they get..?

Nada --not a single explosion.

Finally they very deliberately misted fuel of the same type in a high wind at a FLAMING RAG on a stake with video-cameras rolling --over 90% of the time the rag WENT OUT --it was extinguished.

Fiiiinally they did replicate a single explosion but after they measured the explosive energy produced they saw it would not so much as rupture the a/c's cargo container walls, to say nothing of blowing off the a/c's nose, which was the story.

Bomb or missile? That I don't know, but "spontaneous center fuel tank explosion"...?

It's ridiculous.

The Muslim war on the Imperialist West started well before 9-11, but the theme of Clinton's impending re-election was Peace & Prosperity --going gallivanting around the world in a search for punishing the responsible parties would have upset that.

Much as at Bengazi.

41 posted on 03/11/2014 5:04:15 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
going gallivanting around the world in a search for punishing the responsible parties would have upset that.

Much as at Bengazi.

Didn't finish that --Bengazi was almost a carbon-copy; a terrorist event more or less at the beginning of the final-stretch of the re-election of an incumbent liberal Democrat.

They'd claimed that AQ was on the ropes due to the fearless leadership of our Dear Leader, and Bengazi put the lie to that silly claim.

And so the great machine went into gear, sending all the King's Horses and Men hither and yon, arranging it so that a baaaad, dastardly Hollywood Jew --strike that-- bad Hollywood Koptic CHRISTIAN, had gone and slandered the wonderful name of Mohammed.

They called 5 film crews and set up kleig lights and arrested an innocent old guy wrapped in a towel in the middle of the night and paraded him before the world.

Hillary ADVERTISED her apoligy on the craziest parts of Pakistan, apparently in a bid to CALL ATTENTION to the arcane video and produce the type of wild violence that would support their claim of widespread protest and riots.

In both cases, TWA800 and Bengazi, we saw the operation of a Coverup Machine and the astounding lengths it would go in order to affect the outcome of a national election.

44 posted on 03/11/2014 5:17:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

“Nada —not a single explosion.”

Which any farm boy or lumberjack could have told them would be the case since Jet/Kerosene/Diesel (all closely combustion related) do not ‘explode’ like gasoline. Otherwise, every garage and mechanical work area for 100 years equipped with a parts washer would have been a ball of fire.

To say nothing of every oil/kerosene heater in existence...


49 posted on 03/11/2014 5:24:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: gaijin; driftdiver; ralph rotten
In '82 I was an ATC at Chicago ARTCC. I was the last controller to talk to Happy33, an ILL ANG KC-135(military tanker version of B-707). He simply quit talkin' & squawkin', having blown up at about 12,000. 27 weekend warriors dead.

The investigation revealed a VHF antenna connector had come partially loose and shorted inside a fuel void when he transmitted to me acknowledgement of a frequency change to O'hare approach.

In '66 or so, in central Michigan about 10PM I saw what I was certain was a jet coming down in flames about 2 -3 miles east of me into some woods. The Sheriff got hundreds of calls about it, all with roughly the same description. It was a meteor that came down in Ontario, hundreds of miles away.

Bottom line, I have perused/studied literally of accident reports and have great respect for the professionalism and expertise of the investigators. And I know for a fact that what you see isn't always what is there.

99 posted on 03/11/2014 6:06:06 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: gaijin
The US Navy rightfully wondered about that, and performed many test on their a/c after TWA800 --over 100 times then even dumped entire HIBACHIS full of briquettes, tossed flaming rags, etc into full tanks, 1/2 full tanks, almost empty tanks, and what did they get..?

When my tractor's fuel injector mists diesel fuel into the cylinder, it explodes every time the piston compresses it - it doesn't even need a spark.

108 posted on 03/11/2014 6:31:58 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: gaijin
dumped entire HIBACHIS full of briquettes, tossed flaming rags, etc into full tanks, 1/2 full tanks, almost empty tanks, and what did they get..? Nada --not a single explosion.

I agree, BUT...

We had a guy up here get killed recently, he was cutting up an empty fuel oil tank with a torch.

216 posted on 03/12/2014 3:37:18 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: gaijin

The fuel quantity system can and have caused hull losses. A short that puts 115 instead of millivolts into the fuel system and KABOOM. It’s rare that this happens but it has. The circuit breakers prevents any catastrophe.

The fuel pumps can cause an explosion if they are ran without fuel in the tanks. Aircraft have all types of warnings and safety features to prevent this but its not impossible.


217 posted on 03/12/2014 3:56:00 PM PDT by USAF80
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