[dr_lew]

They must war and grab land and materials or die at this point IMO. But they have not learned to live clean yet and destroy everything in their path (again IMO).

I have seen smog headlines recently, but even at that, it's still underplayed. To me it's surreal that we're having this "war on diesel", for example, when the air and water are cleaner than they have been in decades, even a century in urban areas.

Then I look at the MODIS satellite pictures of China, and it's like some kind of horror movie! Yet, it's ignored or glossed over. What is with that? Somebody tell me.

[A CA Guy]

What it is would be power buying silence.

[dennisw]

I have seen smog headlines recently, but even at that, it's still underplayed. To me it's surreal that we're having this "war on diesel", for example, when the air and water are cleaner than they have been in decades, even a century in urban areas.
Then I look at the MODIS satellite pictures of China, and it's like some kind of horror movie! Yet, it's ignored or glossed over. What is with that? Somebody tell me.

I frequent a site/forum that has nothing to do with politics but has a small subsection where members discuss anything. By a 3 to 1 ratio people buy into the   eco-lies you mention. I post anti-EPA material and have at least some people thinking

But what you write above is the common sense I post. Americans are spoiled and have lost perspective on how clean this nation is. Our cities used to have horse shit on all the streets. That was pretty funky in the summer. Bred lots of flies too

[DB]

The Chinese government wanted the fasted path to wealth possible at the expense of the longer term. They knew their days were numbered watching the rest of the world throw off the communist overlords and this was the way to extend their reign. It won't surprise me if the Chinese people's rage turns inwards instead of outwards for what the Chinese authorities have done to their future.