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Feds Set Aside Habitat In Southwest For Jaguar [ Arizona and New Mexico ]
AP ^ | March 05, 2014 | Alexandra Olgin

Posted on 03/05/2014 7:52:46 PM PST by george76

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To: hinckley buzzard

That’s true but there are still a lot of uses allowed on those lands that could be curtailed by claiming harm to jaguar habitat.


41 posted on 03/05/2014 9:28:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: george76
This is all Pancho Villa and Apache land of old.

That's what makes it great cartel and drug land as well. Easy to hide, and 'survive' and do what bandits have always done.

The BP already uses horses in that area, and that makes sense. Part of the problems they face is that the cartel have better technology and supply chains.

You could stop the cartel in that area, but ya would need to bring back Pershing, and uses modern tech.

42 posted on 03/05/2014 9:30:07 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They’re trying to make our county wolf country and there is no historic evidence of wolves in our area.

They’ve made some northern Mexican state wolf habitat and every wolf they have released has been killed. I’d laugh but each one they release costs the US taxpayer 500K.


43 posted on 03/05/2014 9:31:20 PM PST by tiki
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To: little jeremiah

Google Sasha Siemel, he hunted them in Brazil using a gun a bow and a SPEAR. Pretty big balls. One of the ones he killed was a cattle killer and had killed a vaquero. He said it weighed 440#. I don’t think they are bluffable as a cougar might be.


44 posted on 03/05/2014 9:34:02 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

440#? Yikes. Mountain lions around here are half that size. I did some searching and learned a lot. Totally different type of cat.


45 posted on 03/05/2014 9:37:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Totally different type of cat.

There's a reason they were extirpated. These types of animals are great, as long as one doesn't have to live with them around, when they decide to not work as hard for their meals.

46 posted on 03/05/2014 9:40:44 PM PST by xone
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To: Octar
But the experts, who know nothing , think it would be a good thing if the country was restored to the way it was before we got here.

Agenda 21, amigo. Humans are seen to be the problem.

47 posted on 03/05/2014 9:45:27 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: george76
Add the jaguar to this list.


48 posted on 03/05/2014 10:02:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Get rid of the Lucas Electrics and the Jag will be just fine.


49 posted on 03/05/2014 10:06:58 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BuffaloJack; Ditter; Boogieman
I always thought that jaguars were some exotic species from South and Central America

That was my initial reaction, but that is apparently not the case.

50 posted on 03/05/2014 10:07:05 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: george76

Be a jaguar and get 1,200 square miles free of charge.

Be a human being and get billed for it.

“All men are created equal - but jaguars are better than everybody.”

Must have missed that clause.

Wolves are included, too, right?


51 posted on 03/05/2014 11:22:23 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: BuffaloJack

Negatory! I and others have seen one on the coast of Oregon within the last 10 years. It was a very large dark cat 1/3 to 1/2 again as large as any cougar I have ever seen. Including tail in length, it was as long as one lane of the two way road I was driving on. It was crossing the Siletz Hwy by the truck scale area between Siletz and Toledo. I repeat that I am not the only person to have seen the big cat and can give another witnesses name.


52 posted on 03/05/2014 11:49:34 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: TigersEye

Looks like a reconquest map printed by La Raza.


53 posted on 03/06/2014 2:12:03 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Maybe what we should be doing instead is setting aside the entire southern border as a “habitat” and stock it with tigers. With all the illegals crossing there, the tigers’ hunting ground would be well stocked.


54 posted on 03/06/2014 4:14:03 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: little jeremiah

> Are the jaguars bigger than regular mountain lions such as the ones in the western part of the country?

Yup !!
Large cougars get up to about 220 pounds; The average jaguar is the size of a large cougar and the occasional large males can get to 350 pounds.


55 posted on 03/06/2014 5:32:31 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: Birdsbane

The Federal Jaguar Eradication Program was started in the early 1900s at the request of farmers and cattlemen. It continued until the early 1950s at which time the number of bounties paid dwindled to the zero and the program was ended. It is highly possible and probable that a few of the big cats remained and that may be what you saw.


56 posted on 03/06/2014 5:52:53 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: george76

With any luck, the mountain lions and lobos will eat them up, and the ranchers will kill them. Enough is enough, and this government is way over the top.


57 posted on 03/06/2014 6:36:44 AM PST by pallis
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To: xone

I realize that Jaguars are different but why is it a bad thing if they are put in a part of the country where big cats already live and thrive? Grizzles and Black bears live in the same habitat and there are big cats living there as well.


58 posted on 03/06/2014 7:17:14 AM PST by Ditter
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To: little jeremiah
Are the jaguars bigger than regular mountain lions such as the ones in the western part of the country?

As others have noted, much larger than a mountain lion, larger than leopards, in fact the third largest cat in the World after tigers and African lions.

59 posted on 03/06/2014 7:47:24 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: little jeremiah
"I'll search for some jaguar photos"

Go to YouTube, find the videos of the jags attacking caymens and anacondas.

A couple of those feature black jags. The phrase black panther is still used in the US but there are no black panthers. When there were still jaguars in the US there were some black jags.

60 posted on 03/06/2014 8:10:55 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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