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CNN Analyst Zakaria Backtracks on 'Fantasy' Eastern European Missile Defense Program
Breitbart's Big Peace ^ | March 4, 2014 | Tony Lee

Posted on 03/04/2014 8:12:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Four years after CNN foreign policy analyst Fareed Zakaria praised President Barack Obama for scrapping the missile defense system in Eastern Europe, Zakaria swiftly backtracked on Sunday after top Ukrainian officials declared that Russia was invading the country.

Zakaria, the host of CNN's weekly Fareed Zakaria GPS program, said on his show that NATO should consider building a missile defense system in Eastern Europe that the Obama administration scrapped:

"Militarily there is less that can be done. After all, Russia’s military budget is about 18 times that of Ukraine. But NATO should restart talks on providing assurances to countries like Poland – including perhaps building the missile defense system that was abandoned."

During Obama's first year in office, though, Zakaria had a different tone. He said that Obama did not cave on scrapping the missile defense system in Eastern Europe because Obama "traded the fantasy of the system with the reality of what it is."

"The president's reasons for shifting gears on the antiballistic missile systems for Poland and the Czech Republic are sound," Zakaria said in 2009. "Look at the facts. Since the 1980s, the United States has spent well over $150 billion on missile defense. That's more than the total cost of the Manhattan Project or the Apollo mission to the moon. Despite this, in 25 years, the program has not produced any workable weapon system, something unprecedented even in the annals of the Pentagon's bloated budgets."(continued)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; sdi; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/04/2014 8:12:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HYPOCRISY...
It’s a Democrat thingy.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 8:14:49 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

The whole Eastern Europe needs a second amendment more than missles.


3 posted on 03/04/2014 8:19:23 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indefensible: Obama abandons Eastern Europe, puts a smile on faces in Tehran and Moscow(2009)

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWE2MjE2ODc4MTRjNDRmNjVjMGU1YTJhNjIwZGU1OGU=


4 posted on 03/04/2014 8:25:18 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: SevenofNine; GeronL; KC_Lion; nuconvert; txhurl

Ping.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 8:28:47 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rule #465a: Never listen to foreign policy advice from anyone named Fareed Zakaria.


6 posted on 03/04/2014 8:30:11 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Ah, the 20/20 vision of hindsight.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 8:31:08 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Indeed.


8 posted on 03/04/2014 8:31:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look in the dictionary under effing moron and you see a picture of Fareed Zakaria.


9 posted on 03/04/2014 8:32:16 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LOL! Very good advice!


10 posted on 03/04/2014 8:35:42 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When we withdrew that missile defense, we told Russia/Putin that they can do whatever they like.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 8:37:45 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The president's reasons for shifting gears on the antiballistic missile systems for Poland and the Czech Republic are sound," Zakaria said in 2009.

They were only "sound" in that they won the moment for Democrats. They were not "sound" to anyone who saw the Big Picture in the Long Term.

-PJ

12 posted on 03/04/2014 8:39:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The reason I’m so flexible is I’m spineless.”


13 posted on 03/04/2014 8:41:49 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had the system been installed, NATO radar tracking would have been able to track near anything in the skies over the region. The side benefit of the intercepts was the excellent tracking system.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 8:42:37 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.


15 posted on 03/04/2014 8:53:17 PM PST by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Militarily there is less that can be done. After all, Russia’s military budget is about 18 times that of Ukraine.

Our military budget is probably several hundred times that of the Taliban. We're still fighting them, 12 years later, and getting weary of the casualties and the expense. If Ukraine doesn't want to fight, I understand. But it's not because of the disparity in military budgets.

16 posted on 03/04/2014 8:55:27 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals see the world as they want it, not how it is. That’s what gets you killed.


17 posted on 03/04/2014 9:03:50 PM PST by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Yep just 45 million guns, one for each Uke, would make a big difference.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 9:14:56 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Zhang Fei

the terrian and weather are easier to carry out a non stop gueriila war than ukraine


20 posted on 03/04/2014 9:35:25 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

courtesy ping 2nd.


21 posted on 03/04/2014 9:48:28 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Zhang Fei

Perhaps Ukraine realizes Russia wouldn’t worry as much about enemy casualties like the US does. Our leaders haven’t wanted to win a war since 1945.


22 posted on 03/04/2014 10:29:47 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: generalissimoduane

“I don’t like you because — you are going to get me killed!”


23 posted on 03/04/2014 10:32:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/postamerican.asp

Origins: The above-displayed photographs of Barack Obama carrying (and presumably reading) the best-selling book, The Post-American World, is a real one, snapped by Doug Mills of the New York Times in Bozeman, Montana, in May 2008. However, the characterization of the pictured book as “a Muslim's view of a defeated America” is erroneous: The book does not posit a “defeated America,” nor does it express a Muslim point of view.

The The Post-American World was written by Fareed Zakaria, an Indian-born political journalist (commonly described as a “political moderate”) who specializes in world affairs and has written for (and edited) U.S. national news publications, hosted U.S. television news programs, and authored several books on international issues. A Village Voice profile described Zakaria (a naturalized citizen of the United States) thusly:

Although he was a rising star in the serious foreign-policy world of the ‘90s (The Nation once described him as a “junior Kissinger”), it was his post-9/11 Newsweek cover story “Why They Hate Us” that put him on the mainstream map as someone who could make sense of the now threatening outside world. And he has continued to win himself a substantial following with his thoughtful critiques of the Bush administration's activities in Iraq. He is America's go-to man for global chaos, providing some urgently needed outside perspective on our never ending war on terror.

His own upbringing was open-minded and secular; he sang Christian hymns at school and celebrated Hindu as well as his own Muslim holidays. “I do know a lot about the world of Islam in an instinctive way that you can't get through book learning,” he says thoughtfully, but admits he finds the role of token Muslim explainer in the American media slightly uncomfortable. “I occasionally find myself reluctant to be pulled into a world that's not mine, in the sense that I'm not a religious guy.”

Typical liberal BS. This guy is a Muslim. Period. He is a foreign policy/world affairs go to man for left of this country. Period. And it seems like Obama, he has no clue about "Realpolitik". Period.

24 posted on 03/04/2014 11:56:39 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Farid Zakaria, like Barack Obama a man of color, has been thrust upon us by an establishment media because he can speak the King's English and render plausible that which is upon reflection repugnant to common sense while enjoying relative immunity from criticism.


25 posted on 03/04/2014 11:59:36 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: castlegreyskull

Just like Madeline Albright told Saddam Hussein he could invade Kuwait.


26 posted on 03/05/2014 12:22:43 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Zakaria reminds me of a younger Z Brezinski: talks a lot of big words but is usually wrong.

Then again, he works for CNN where accuracy is not always a prerequisite for employment. (How to you say Piers Morgan?)


27 posted on 03/05/2014 1:29:32 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: tcrlaf
Hypocrisy? No.

Stupidity, idiocy, incompetence, shamelessness.

28 posted on 03/05/2014 3:25:08 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: PGR88

Comrade, it seems we are at war with both Eurasia and Eastasia, or soon will be.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 3:26:24 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama wanted to reset relations with Russia, only the moron didn’t realize that reset would take you back to the 1960s.


30 posted on 03/05/2014 3:38:22 AM PST by UKrepublican
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zakaria, the host of CNN's weekly Fareed Zakaria GPS program, said on his show that NATO should consider building a missile defense system in Eastern Europe that the Obama administration scrapped...

A couple of problems with that statement. NATO isn't paying for it, we are. NATO isn't providing billions in military aid for the privilege of building the missile bases, we are. It provides no protection to the U.S., only Europe. So once again people are advocating we take steps without Europe's support and spend billions of dollars defending countries so that they don't have to. Yeah, makes perfect sense to me. </sarcasm>

31 posted on 03/05/2014 3:44:51 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zakaria and Obama are Antiamerican frauds -
both guilty of TREASON.


32 posted on 03/05/2014 4:00:57 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: DoodleDawg
It provides no protection to the U.S., only Europe

Does your sarcasm tag apply to this statement also?

33 posted on 03/05/2014 4:11:27 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Tonytitan
Does your sarcasm tag apply to this statement also?

No. Missiles headed to the U.S. from Russia come over the pole. They don't go over Europe.

34 posted on 03/05/2014 4:13:59 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our unilateral disarmament will continue to haunt for years. Peace comes thru strength. The US is getting weak.


35 posted on 03/05/2014 4:25:22 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Just like Madeline Albright told Saddam Hussein he could invade Kuwait.

Whut?

36 posted on 03/05/2014 4:33:32 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: DoodleDawg

A couple of problems with that statement. NATO isn’t paying for it, we are. NATO isn’t providing billions in military aid for the privilege of building the missile bases, we are. It provides no protection to the U.S., only Europe. So once again people are advocating we take steps without Europe’s support and spend billions of dollars defending countries so that they don’t have to. Yeah, makes perfect sense to me.


The key thing right now is maintaining the threat of NATO deterrence. It’s better to pay for that radar than to have to decide what to do in the future when Putin rolls tanks into some place like Estonia and they invoke article 5. Doing less than nothing right now just encourages Putin to start rolling tanks through NATO countries.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 4:42:12 AM PST by lodi90
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To: DoodleDawg
Missiles headed to the U.S. from Russia come over the pole. They don't go over Europe

While you are of course correct about this, the radar stations set up in Poland and the Czech Republic can monitor the skies over eastern Russia to include all their ICBM bases. In the event of a Russian launch they will pass targeting info to Ground-based Missile Defense(GMD) installations in Alaska and California, which will destroy the second stage warhead bus over the pole before the warheads and their decoys deploy. The Russians know this. That's why they're dead set against those radar installations ever coming on line.

38 posted on 03/05/2014 4:45:22 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Zhang Fei

Russia doesn’t operate under the same PC conditions that we do.


39 posted on 03/05/2014 4:47:17 AM PST by Straight8
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To: Kickass Conservative
Just like Madeline Albright told Saddam Hussein he could invade Kuwait.

Nope... that was Bush's ambassador, April Glaspie who in 1990 greenlighted Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

40 posted on 03/05/2014 5:31:53 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: PghBaldy; Straight8
pgh: Perhaps Ukraine realizes Russia wouldn’t worry as much about enemy casualties like the US does. Our leaders haven’t wanted to win a war since 1945.

str: Russia doesn’t operate under the same PC conditions that we do.

Stories of Soviet atrocities - without corroborating video - against Afghans, whom nobody in the West knew from Adam, prompted billions of dollars in aid for the Afghan insurgents. Russian atrocities against Ukrainians, accompanied by video and posted on Youtube will lead to billions *per year* in material assistance and perhaps even NATO air support against Russian forces in Ukraine. In that respect, it would be little different from Soviet flyers facing off against USAF and USN pilots during the Korean and Vietnam Wars.

41 posted on 03/05/2014 5:39:31 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Tonytitan
While you are of course correct about this, the radar stations set up in Poland and the Czech Republic can monitor the skies over eastern Russia to include all their ICBM bases.

We have satellites that we use to detect launches, and which can warn the tracking stations in Alaska and California of the threat.

42 posted on 03/05/2014 5:49:31 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Zhang Fei

Stories of Soviet atrocities - without corroborating video - against Afghans, whom nobody in the West knew from Adam, prompted billions of dollars in aid for the Afghan insurgents. Russian atrocities against Ukrainians, accompanied by video and posted on Youtube will lead to billions *per year* in material assistance and perhaps even NATO air support against Russian forces in Ukraine. In that respect, it would be little different from Soviet flyers facing off against USAF and USN pilots during the Korean and Vietnam Wars.


That was then, this is now. The west is now run by pansy corporate fascists. They won’t be shooting at Russians in the Ukraine. Many of them think what Russia is doing now in their “near abroad” is perfectly understandable.


43 posted on 03/05/2014 5:51:47 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90
The key thing right now is maintaining the threat of NATO deterrence.

Have you looked at the size of NATOs military lately? That ship sailed long ago.

It’s better to pay for that radar than to have to decide what to do in the future when Putin rolls tanks into some place like Estonia and they invoke article 5.

A radar system that provides no protection for the U.S. is going to keep Putin from rolling the tanks on Estonia? So what if he did? Who is going to stop him? Germany? France? Denmark?

Doing less than nothing right now just encourages Putin to start rolling tanks through NATO countries.

If the NATO countries are not willing to fund their own defense then why should we do it for them?

44 posted on 03/05/2014 5:52:27 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Useful picture:


Military budget of Russian Federation and of other post-USSR countries

Hint: $71 billion, -- guess who? $10 billion is cumulative budget of all ex-USSR countries except the RF.
The red bar is number of active servicemen. 1 million -- guess who?
The dotted line is the cumulative of all ex-USSR countries except the RF, against the RF.

(Courtesy Sputnik i Pogrom)

In East Europe the Cold War never ended.

45 posted on 03/05/2014 6:12:57 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: nathanbedford

Our entire popular culture in a nutshell. Well said, thank you.


46 posted on 03/05/2014 6:22:40 AM PST by ecomcon
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- Cokehead Barack Hussein Obama Junior : “Tell Vladimir after my election I have more flexibility.” (I need more “space”)

- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev : “I understand. I will transmit this to Vladimir.”

.


47 posted on 03/05/2014 6:24:24 AM PST by devolve (- "Tell Vladimir after my election I have more 'flexibility'…." … I need more "space" - BHO Jr -)
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To: DoodleDawg

If the NATO countries are not willing to fund their own defense then why should we do it for them?


There has been recent news of increased defense spending in Europe. The Estonian FM made a statement about that I believe. They know they have to spend more.

A robust NATO response now including new installations would give Putin pause. He lives in the 1970’s and dreams of reassembling the USSR. You seem ok with that. I am not. It is not in US interest to have a nuclear armed bad actor rampaging through Europe today and someplace else tomorrow.


48 posted on 03/05/2014 6:36:41 AM PST by lodi90
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To: annalex

That’s the wrong chart. You need one with market size. The banksters in London and Frankfurt are willing to feed Ukraine and the Baltics to the Russian bear to keep their cut of the Russian kleptocracy coming in. That’s what pays for their ferraris and high priced hookers. So what if millions are put back in Russian chains, they simply don’t care.


49 posted on 03/05/2014 6:40:24 AM PST by lodi90
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To: DoodleDawg

Actually the missile defenses Bush planned in Poland and Czech Republic would’ve protected the East Coast of the US from Iranian ICBMs. Out East Coast has absolutely no missile defenses now.

Russia objected to those missile defenses on the pretense they were targeting them, but they know darn well that no missile defenses will protect the West from their arsenal.


50 posted on 03/05/2014 9:58:31 AM PST by Dave346
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