Conservative NYT Columnist on What to Expect When Gay Marriage Becomes Legal in 50 Sates

Christian Post ^ | 03/03/2013 | Anugrah Kumar

[Arrowhead1952]

This is a cultural issue, and its basically over, the culture is changing and there is nothing you can really do to stop it.

BS. Our 28 yr old daughter is 100% against gay marriage. Same for most if not all of her HS and TAMU college classmates.

[Steve_Seattle]

"The writer then blames Christians for it, saying they had "plenty of opportunities – thousands of years' worth – to treat gay people with real charity, and far too often chose intolerance." He says they must "remember our sins, and nobody should call it persecution."

I attended a Catholic church for the first 30 years of my life and don't recall the sin of homosexuality ever being emphasized, much less mocked or derided from the pulpit. (Keep in mind that this was in the years BEFORE the rise of homosexuality in the priesthood.) The Church did not to emphasize this issue because society at large shared the same view of homosexuality.

As for the law, homosexuality was rarely prosecuted. Most of the "sins" against homosexuals were committed by youth, religious or not, for whom gay-hazing was a standard part of youth sub-culture. In the book "Good Bye, Good Men," which discusses the crisis of homosexuality in the post-1960s Catholic clergy, it was in fact ADULT GAYS who often acted as bullies whenever they took control of an institution, and it was their legacy of sex abuse which has cost the church hundreds of millions of dollars in reparations.

[Steve_Seattle]

"As for the law, homosexuality was rarely prosecuted."

I should modify this by saying that homosexuality was typically prosecuted only when it involved acts of public sex in restrooms and so forth. It was rare for police to raid a home or business merely because of suspicions of homosexuality.

[Beagle8U]

“Really? You might want to review the Civil Rights cases in America!”

Point out in the BOR where it says I have to be nice to the queers?

They can’t force anyone to like them.

[Atlas Sneezed]

The difficulty is that social activists prefer submission to negotiation.

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Forcing an unwilling photographer to work at a gay wedding is like forcing a Jew to get down on his knees and eat pork.

[Delta Dawn]

The account was hacked and a paid troll is now posting this garbage.

[unread]

Thanks GeronL...Well said.

[Kazan]

The writer then blames Christians for it, saying they had "plenty of opportunities – thousands of years' worth – to treat gay people with real charity, and far too often chose intolerance." He says they must "remember our sins, and nobody should call it persecution."

Sounds like a flaming liberal, not a conservative.

But, he is partially right. Christians are to blame -- for buying into the libertarian/secular humanist philosophy and abandoning laws prohibiting homosexuality. Once homosexuality was legalized, it was just a matter of time before it was normalized and declared a right. Once a right, it was logical for homosexual activists to demand their relationships be considered the same as heterosexual ones.

[Kazan]

Secondly, I hope these newly ‘married’ gays are as MISERABLE as I was in my marriage.

Few even bother marrying.

Gay marriage is just the vehicle to attack religious freedom, free of association and parental rights. It results in more kids in dysfunctional family situations in need of government assistance.

[IrishBrigade]

The way things are now... they can’t even pass a reasonable bill protecting religious businessmen from government harassment ( even with a Republican governor ).

...it’s worse than that...they propose bills, and then lobby the governor to veto them...

[Kazan]

This is a cultural issue, and its basically over, the culture is changing and there is nothing you can really do to stop it. Probably time to learn to deal with it.

Dealing with means civil disobedience and, perhaps, armed resistance if one's religious freedom or parental rights are being encroached upon.

[longtermmemmory]

the courts have lost all sense of reality. It is a sexual BEHAVIOR we are discussion. Not skin color, not dna, not national origin. A behavior no different than any other recreational deviant sex fetish.

[TitansAFC]

Roberts will impose gay marriage; it's part of the reason he was nominated.

The only question is whether or not Kennedy changes his long-held stance that marriage laws are the purview of the states.

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[fr_freak]

I always find it fascinating that comments like these come from an account that was started in 1998.

I have a pet theory that a lot of the early accounts were made by non-internet savvy people who then moved on. Meanwhile, they left behind accounts with passwords like "password" or the password being the name of the account (i.e. the password for fr_freak being "fr_freak"). So, any bored, teenage lefty retard who had the time to kill could simply go down the list of screennames and try those two passwords. Probably get into 25% of the accounts.

[tanknetter]

I don’t really see it as surrendering per se. More like trying to stop being drowned when the other side is actively holding your head under water.

Rather than fight that, what you do is drop further to get out of their grip, then save yourself by popping up somewhere else. In other words outflank the bastards.

In this case it may mean that we accept (not tolerate, not approve of) the fact that there’s a train in motion that we cannot stop. So we pick a different field on which to fight. In the immediate case that would be calling the Left out for being anti Christian bigots and hypocrites for failing to respect the personal consciences and beliefs of those opposed to gay marriage. Strip them from their ownership of victim status and show them to be the intolerant bullies and thugs they really are.

[CSM]

“Because, in reality, Leftists never “win”. They just successfully take the next step in the ongoing march of progressivism.”

You are correct. First we are required to accept a lifestyle, then we are required to endorse it by legalizing marraige and anyone that opposes such endorsement is ridiculed as a “homophobic right wing kook.” I would wager that soon you will see the left attacking churches that do not perform the ceremony.

It is purely an attack on religion....plain and simple.

[jimt]

And once men can marry men, et al, why can’t 3 or more of ANY gender marry ? And why should there be any age of consent, if the kid is willing, whether due to bribery or whatever ? And should a man or a lady become enamored of their canine or equine companion, why should interspecies married be banned ?

Equality for all !

/barf

[Cyber Liberty]

"And where conflicts arise – in a case where, say, a Mormon caterer or a Catholic photographer objected to working at a same-sex wedding – gay rights supporters would...let the dissenters opt out 'in the name of their freedom – and ours.'"

I call BS. Dissenters won't be "allowed to opt-out," they'll be sued into oblivion if they refuse to knuckle under. It's already started.

[Cyber Liberty]

It’s because we were a bunch of morons that year. I’m sure people have had lots to say about my stupid comments over the years.