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The Fallacy of Being Economically but Not Morally Conservative
Townhall.com ^ | March 2, 2014 | Michael Youssef

Posted on 03/02/2014 2:06:40 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Shery

You are generally correct.
Conservatives of the last century often weren’t economic liberals. Chesterton and his circle advocated semi-socialist policies, and of course we Catholics have Rerum Novarum and its later teachings. 19th century conservatives were even less libertarian. If you will recall, Bastiat’s most famous work is a response to Thiers, who supported high tariffs. Thiers was the man who crushed the Paris Commune.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 4:28:52 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

All of which just goes to show that when you attempt to equate modern political position to those of the past you are constantly tripping over your own feet. At least if you are willing to recognize the realities of history instead of just projecting present-day concerns into the past.


22 posted on 03/02/2014 5:04:22 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: yldstrk
No what they mean is financially conservative and at the same time willing to help the widow and the sick.

Maybe some do. How many of those social liberals also accept that government is the source of charity and as such must take from some and give to others such charity? To go even further, how many social liberal believe government can create special rights that when imposed by government tend to limit god given rights?

The U.S. Constitution limits the Federal government both fiscally & socially and as such, to limit government, conservatives must be both fiscally & morally conservative.

The Left rarely promotes its policies based upon saving money or reducing government; the left almost always talks social issues. IMHO it's called a culture war instead of a fiscal war for a reason. From my perspective in this war, the fiscal only conservative crowd are simply bystanders as the Left amasses power & imposes it's 'social' will upon the people. In essence the fiscal only conservative crowd are at best irrelevant & at worst actually helping the Leftists.

23 posted on 03/02/2014 5:10:59 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

exactly, they always want to raise taxes because they are stealing


24 posted on 03/02/2014 7:06:47 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MrEdd
Your post assumes atheism as a given.

First you need to learn the difference between an agnostic and an atheist.

Second no one can prove a negative so the burden of proof that your selected god exists is on you.

Third all of this is a straw man argument. My comment was to the absolute numerical fact that most of the world does not believe in your god. You want to change that discussion. I stand by that statement 100%.

25 posted on 03/02/2014 7:41:04 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Kaslin

Strawman setup to fill up his blog.


26 posted on 03/02/2014 7:49:06 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: ansel12
Social liberalism creates liberal voters and larger government, conservative economics require social conservatism among the voters and in the culture.

Exactly. They are joined at the hip, you cannot have one without the other....When you remove the traditional family, Government will fill the void.

27 posted on 03/02/2014 7:52:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: yldstrk
Anyone who believes abortion is ok is evil.

Tens of millions of "Americans" endorse in the strongest possible terms the right of, if not themselves, then of their hapless neighbors to kill their unborn children. It's the way Americans are wired these days, and so shall they remain.

28 posted on 03/03/2014 5:56:00 AM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: Theodore R.

I feel extremely lonely and have a hard time circulating among all the pagans


29 posted on 03/03/2014 6:11:48 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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That’s what we have, pagans, many of whom are too uninformed even to define the word.


30 posted on 03/03/2014 12:22:33 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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