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To: steve86

Yeah, but who is managing the Oracle consultants? Surely they are not managing themselves... Cannot blame it on the consultants, as they are not “in charge” of the overall project. It is the hiring governmental agency.


17 posted on 03/02/2014 8:48:52 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

Remember how Ellison made huge contributions to his buddy Clinton and got the justice department to prosecute Microsoft because they were being apolitical at the time and not giving Slick Willy his due?


18 posted on 03/02/2014 6:06:01 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: LaRueLaDue; BwanaNdege
Yeah, but who is managing the Oracle consultants? Surely they are not managing themselves...

The State of Oregon did not hire individual consultants (that can be done also). They signed a contract with Oracle Consulting Services to produce a deliverable. The state would have little to no management interaction with individual consultants. Oracle would provide the project management and line management. Sure, the state's oversight of the contract was no doubt deficient as well. But Oracle failed to deliver anything like what it was obligated to in a timely manner.

Somewhat interestingly, Washington State, in contrast, did the entire project in-house and had a largely working website right from the beginning (Oct 1). I enrolled October 7th. There were some problems, and lots of downtime for fixes, but at this point WA's effort stands head and shoulders above Oregon's state-hiring-private sector approach.

21 posted on 03/02/2014 9:25:22 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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