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Unrest in Venezuela Spawns a Folk Hero
Wall Street Journal ^ | Feb. 26, 2014 10:42 p.m. ET | David Luhnow and Ezequiel Minaya

Posted on 02/27/2014 7:14:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil

CARACAS, Venezuela—A gun-toting retired Venezuelan general has become a folk hero to the country's opposition and galvanized a protest movement by defying the government of President Nicolás Maduro, engaging in a Rambo-like standoff with security forces sent by the president to arrest him.

Angel Vivas has been holed up in his home in a hilly Caracas suburb since last weekend, when Mr. Maduro, on live television, ordered his arrest for having backed student protests that have convulsed this oil-rich nation.

When black-clad officers from military intelligence went to the retired Army general's house Sunday morning, he emerged wearing a flak jacket and armed with a semiautomatic rifle and pistol, warning that the only way he would be taken was in a body bag. Scores of neighbors came out in support of Gen. Vivas and heckled security forces, who eventually backed down.

"I have a right to self-defense," Gen. Vivas said in an interview inside his bunkerlike home, which is decorated with family pictures and mementos to his 40-year career in the army, including old rifles and swords.

"At no time did I order anyone to commit violence," he said, after the government said his tweet giving defense advice caused a death. "I was helping unarmed civilians defend themselves….A priest recommends prayer, a doctor recommends medicine, a military man recommends how to defend."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; defiance; general; venezuela; vivas
Mass Defiance and long term demonstrations are in order. Chavez has removed many from the Military who would resist the Cuban takeover, but some still remain. Will there be enough to affect a popular overthrow of Communism?

Guess we shall see.

God Bless Freedom Lovers in Venezuela.

1 posted on 02/27/2014 7:14:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Bump ... our Military Generals know it (below) may come to their neighborhoods too. Bow to obama and next hillary clinton or else, so says the lame-stream.


2 posted on 02/27/2014 7:23:11 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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sorry ... right face or last sentence!


3 posted on 02/27/2014 7:24:07 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Texas Fossil

Too bad more citizens in Venezuela don’t have guns like the general.


4 posted on 02/27/2014 7:28:11 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Texas Fossil

The governor and atty general of Connecticut should pay attention.


5 posted on 02/27/2014 7:36:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Texas Fossil; Travis McGee; NFHale

Viva Vivas!

6 posted on 02/27/2014 7:40:10 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: no-to-illegals

Bow NOT!

FUBO


7 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Old Sarge

Say hello to he’s leeeeetle friend!


8 posted on 02/27/2014 7:44:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Old Sarge

I had a few occasions to work with soldiers cut from his cloth in Central America.

Their stoicism is legendary and they will die for a point of honor without flinching, with that same expression on their face.


9 posted on 02/27/2014 7:46:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Yes, and their congress critters too.


10 posted on 02/27/2014 7:46:08 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Old Sarge

Bump!


11 posted on 02/27/2014 7:46:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Old Sarge

Where is OUR General Vivas???


12 posted on 02/27/2014 8:01:03 AM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Texas Fossil

Not to go totaly off subject here but could the uprising
in Venezuela have something to do with that spy ship that
is parked in Cuba?


13 posted on 02/27/2014 8:01:59 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Slambat

Don’t have a clue about the “spy ship” off Cuba.

With Obozo at the controls nothing is clear any more. Absolutely anything is possible.


14 posted on 02/27/2014 8:04:40 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: HOYA97
Where is OUR General Vivas???

Long dead and buried. The replacements are properly castrated and house-trained.

15 posted on 02/27/2014 8:09:31 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Old Sarge; Texas Fossil; Travis McGee

Stand tall, General...

In a better world, there would be an army throwing a protective cordon around this heroic man, muzzles pointing OUT towards the communist thugs... saying “No, by God, not one step more.”

Disgusts me how the bad guys always seem to outnumber us...


16 posted on 02/27/2014 8:11:45 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Did you see the unarmed civilians at the barricades in Ukraine?

Some of those were X-military. Many were clearly crazy. But they were clearly Patriotic.

We shall see if Putin allows them to live freely.


17 posted on 02/27/2014 8:14:26 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Travis McGee; Texas Fossil; Old Sarge

“...When black-clad officers...”

Thugs love black, “scary” uniforms, ever notice?

“...Scores of neighbors came out in support of Gen. Vivas and heckled security forces, who eventually backed down...”

Bet they’d have backed off quicker if those “scores” were pointing muzzles at them as well.


18 posted on 02/27/2014 8:15:59 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Bump for later


19 posted on 02/27/2014 8:16:07 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: ScottinVA

The beginning.

Retired US Generals Vallely and Mattis support demonstration in DC on May 16th.

http://thelastgreatstand.com/lgs/2014/02/02/another-retired-army-general-to-tea-party-group-i-would-lead-a-coup-against-the-u-s-government/


20 posted on 02/27/2014 8:16:22 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

“...Did you see the unarmed civilians at the barricades in Ukraine?...”

Yes. I’ve been watching it intently.

Being of Ukrainian descent myself, I understand it very well. And I wish them well...

They will fight Putin if he comes.


21 posted on 02/27/2014 8:17:29 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ScottinVA

Not sure about the early promoters of the “American Spring” thing.

But WE the People need to have the “Great American Awakening” in 2014

It may start in DC on May 16th

I will be there.

We shall see where that goes.


22 posted on 02/27/2014 8:22:43 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: ScottinVA

Not sure about the early promoters of the “American Spring” thing.

But WE the People need to have the “Great American Awakening” in 2014

It may start in DC on May 16th

I will be there.

We shall see where that goes.


23 posted on 02/27/2014 8:22:47 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

Coming soon to America!!


24 posted on 02/27/2014 8:40:36 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ScottinVA
Long dead and buried. The replacements are properly castrated and house-trained.

Yes, think Wesley Clark and the re-educated Petraeus. The warrior class has been purged from our modern military.

25 posted on 02/27/2014 8:43:55 AM PST by Salvey
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To: NFHale

Good. I cannot believe their bravery (or apparent insanity).

It shows how really bad things are there.

I pray they pull this off.


26 posted on 02/27/2014 8:46:35 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Angel Vivas. Great name for a folk hero.


27 posted on 02/27/2014 9:20:46 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Old Sarge

A textbook example of how the 2nd Amendment is the insurance policy for the 1st Amendment, and why Liberals are always angling to disarm the populace.


28 posted on 02/27/2014 9:27:12 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Bogey78O

Don’t know much about him, but what little I have read says he is a true patriot.

I like the way he holds a weapon. His look indicates he means business.

He is not like Obozo holding a gun.


29 posted on 02/27/2014 9:27:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: NFHale
Thugs love black, “scary” uniforms, ever notice?

Say what you will about the German Nazis, they did have snappy uniforms...

30 posted on 02/27/2014 9:42:00 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: no-to-illegals

They’re already bowing.


31 posted on 02/27/2014 9:43:10 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

jimmi (the peanut man) led the bowing delegation for this one.


32 posted on 02/27/2014 9:47:14 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: null and void
They were custom designed to project a VERY specific "image".

"Style!!! That's what the bloody Boche have! Style!"

-Trevor Howard, Von Ryan's Express

33 posted on 02/27/2014 9:51:17 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Biggest Killer of Humans

You can rest assured that the truth is being told in this clip.

I just hope we don’t have to find out the hard way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=0sujnvIV4g4


34 posted on 02/27/2014 11:09:14 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: HOYA97; Old Sarge
Where is OUR General Vivas???

There have been a few, but your government is a world class expert using the media to discredit, slander and spread disinformation about those who oppose their oppression. Devils of deception.

35 posted on 02/27/2014 11:11:08 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer

May Angel Vivas WIN!


36 posted on 02/27/2014 12:25:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Russian spy ship docked in Havana”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3127516/posts

I think Putin is getting ready to test the Obama on the
Monroe Doctrine.


37 posted on 02/27/2014 1:15:15 PM PST by Slambat
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To: HOYA97
HOYA97 said: "Where is OUR General Vivas???"

You won't recognize him (or her) until the barricades go up. Then you just have to see which side of the barricades he (or she) is on.

From a tactical standpoint, I think the demonstrators in Venezuela protecting the General need to start expanding their perimeter. The ability to do so will be a good test, I think, of the popularity of their message and their willingness to sacrifice for their cause. Also, they need to establish a transition zone outside the barricades that they can use to gather intelligence and deny their enemy the opportunity to that.

They shouldn't just sit and wait for the authorities to organize against their tactics.

They should set up another barricaded area not far from the one pictured. They should be prepared to move their assets from one "secure" area to another quickly so that their enemy cannot predict the value of an assault on either.

I wonder how well armed the demonstrators are? That could very well dictate the outcome.

38 posted on 02/27/2014 1:28:55 PM PST by William Tell
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To: null and void

the German Nazis, they did have snappy uniforms...

My wife, who is Chinese, says the same thing. Her father served under Mao fighting the Japanese in WWII.

Her opinion is that the Germans had the best looking uniforms and the Americans had the friendliest, non-threatening uniforms.

German martial music wasn’t too bad either...


39 posted on 02/27/2014 6:12:00 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Old Sarge
I ownder where he acquired that eeeevil looking "assault rifle".

Musta' been at their local Goodwill store in the "Fast-n-Furious section.

40 posted on 02/28/2014 11:59:50 AM PST by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: Texas Fossil

DC demo ping


41 posted on 03/01/2014 2:55:04 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Sarajevo

“I ownder where he acquired that eeeevil looking “assault rifle”. “

Probably from an American “aid” program.


42 posted on 03/04/2014 4:16:49 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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