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To: Mister Da

The EU & US broke Ukraine. They were going to have elections next year. No one was advocating splitting the country.

EU & US gave billions of dollars to the “opposition”, and lo and behold, armed neo-Nazi thugs with weapons seized power in Kiev. First things the new guys did was ban other languages (including Russian and Hungarian, note that Russia is spoken by about 30% of the population as its primary tongue) and legalize the use of Nazi symbols.

Crimea never belonged to Ukraine until Ukrainian Nikita Krushchev gave it as a gift in the interests of brotherly love, redrawing the internal Soviet administrative boundary. The idea that the EU & US could use neo-Nazi Bandera-OUN-types to seize power and the country would stay as one was fantasy and rank stupidity.

We need to stay OUT.


20 posted on 02/27/2014 5:14:36 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

EU & US gave billions of dollars to the “opposition”, and lo and behold, armed neo-Nazi thugs with weapons seized power in Kiev. First things the new guys did was ban other languages (including Russian and Hungarian, note that Russia is spoken by about 30% of the population as its primary tongue) and legalize the use of Nazi symbols.


So Ruskies in, EU & US out? Is that correct?

Those automatic weapons and flash grenades did not fall off a cabbage truck. Most likely this is a Russian backed op.

You are treading down a slippery slope backing scum like Putin.


30 posted on 02/27/2014 7:01:00 AM PST by lodi90
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

I agree 1000%.


33 posted on 02/27/2014 7:18:55 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
I agree we need to stay out, if for no other reason than the incompetence of Kerry & Obama.

Crimea has changed hands so many times in the last 500+ years it is doubtful who holds any valid claim to Crimea.

The Russians there, as well as in Ukraine, are the descendants of Soviet colonizers sent to administer & control client countries. The Baltic states have the same problem. These people are as unappreciated as American settlers were to the American Indian. Rightly or wrongly, these people are in exactly the same position as the descendants of European colonizers in Africa. We see what their lot has been - ostracization & abuse.

I'm not surprised the neo-nazis were involved the overthrow, nor surprised that the bumbling West may have financed their participation, though I doubt you could have kept them out of it, financing or not.

I think it is safe to say that there is NO government in Ukraine right now, so there is no one that can legally ban languages or restrict graffiti & symbols of any kind. Certainly, there is no one to enforce such restrictions.

Civil war seems to be the direction the country is heading.

36 posted on 02/27/2014 7:48:50 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

What is currently called ‘Ukraine’ is not actually located in the Ukraine region. What was once called ‘the Ukraine’ is now entirely within Russia and the country that is called Ukraine is now composed of what used to be Polish territory and territory that was ceded to Ukraine by the USSR in compensation for territory that the USSR seized from Ukraine.

Now the Russians want to take back what they gave away and you’re siding with them.

Nice.


40 posted on 02/27/2014 8:33:44 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
They were going to have elections next year.

They had legit elections last time! "The West" is siding with a coup.

Remember when the neocons would prattle on & on about spreading democracy? Now, time after time, they support the overturning of elections that they don't like.

The neocons are increasingly hysterical in their impotence. I suspect next Sunday, McCain's head will explode on national TV.

47 posted on 02/27/2014 3:53:38 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“We need to stay OUT.”

I agree.


50 posted on 02/27/2014 4:30:47 PM PST by Finalmente
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