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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“...being descendants of Ukrainians who fought with the Nazis. It is not all made up.”

Please elaborate. I consider myself to be somewhat versed in WWII history and as I recall many Ukrainians initially did offer service but were denied. Later in ‘43 when the war turned bad the Nazis forced conscription. By that time however many Ukrainians had grown to resent the Germans and had joined the partisans or were serving in the Red army. Also the UKIP leaders (who declared independence shortly after the Nazi invasion) were collectively deported to German concentration camps.

The numbers:
-Ukrainians serving in Soviet Army and Partisans ~ 4.7 million.
-Ukrainians serving in Axis armies ~ 90,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaborationism_with_the_Axis_powers

I do not think the ‘Nazi descendant’ analogy is warranted particularly considering the casualty rates on the Eastern front. Most the 90,000 either died or surrendered to Western forces so there would be few descendants in Ukraine today.


49 posted on 02/26/2014 9:44:07 AM PST by Justa
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To: Justa

One of the group’s leaders, Aleksandr Muzychko, has pledged to fight against “Jews and Russians until I die.” Asserting the Right Sector’s authority over the situation, Muzychko declared that now that they have taken over “there will be order and discipline”. (a -classic- German saying) or “Right Sector squads will shoot the bastards on the spot.”

No,, nothing at all Nazi there. It isn’t just membership and an ID card that makes a Nazi. Its chasing down Jews, its street riots that threaten even other opposition groups, its demanding ethnic cleansing such as deRussifying.
Yes, the western Ukrainians are leaning heavily fascist/ Nazi.


53 posted on 02/26/2014 10:01:36 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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