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Two States Look to Raise Legal Smoking Age to 21
Newsmax.com ^ | February 21, 2014 | Thomson/Reuters

Posted on 02/23/2014 12:52:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lawmakers in Utah and Colorado are promoting legislation to raise the legal age for tobacco use to 21, a higher standard than imposed by any other state, saying they want to discourage young people from picking up a lifelong smoking habit.

Supporters say keeping tobacco out of the hands of young adults will save thousands of lives, even as critics complain that Americans who are old enough to vote and serve in the military should not be deemed too young to decide on their own if they should smoke.

In a dramatic display of the risks of smoking, lawmakers in Utah, a heavily Mormon and conservative state, hosted a wheelchair-bound and oxygen-tank-dependent 86-year-old longtime smoker at a committee hearing this week.

"I think a picture is worth a thousand words. I'm that picture," Betty Lawson, who suffers from smoking-related pulmonary disease, told a Utah Senate health committee on Thursday.

"Nineteen-years-old, I picked up my first cigarette. It's a creeping, insidious thing that has you before you know it and you can't turn loose," she said.

A Utah bill to raise the smoking age to 21 advanced from a committee hearing in the state Capitol on Thursday and now awaits consideration by the full Senate. If passed and signed into law, the legislation would take effect on Jan. 1, 2016, to allow smokers now ages 19 or 20 to turn 21.

A House committee on health, insurance and environment in outdoor-oriented Colorado also advanced its proposed legislation on Thursday with Democratic support. Republicans voted against it.

The Colorado legislation would grandfather-in current tobacco users between ages 18 and 21.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Hawaii; US: New York; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: culturewar; doublestandard; downisup; health; legalpot; nannystate; pufflist; smoking; taxthehelloutofit; tobacco; youth
First, Congress and the Reagan Administration condescended to young adults by forcing states and DC to raise the drinking age, and now state governments are doing the same thing with smoking.
1 posted on 02/23/2014 12:52:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Like we said with Mayor Bloomberg...

Go ahead and take that abortion pill kid, just don’t wash it down with a large soda or or smoke a cig after sex.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 12:54:28 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Old enough to risk getting your face shot off in Afghanistan, but not old enough to drink, and now, not old enough to smoke in Utah and Colorado?

Welcome to the USSA!

Nanny State PING!


3 posted on 02/23/2014 12:55:05 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; MeganC
I was 20 when I joined the Air Force.

Old Enough to Buy a Shotgun, not a Handgun.

Old Enough to Smoke, not old enough to Drink.

I am 25 Now and the Government STILL considers me a child.

The Nanny Statists can go get Bent.

Shoot, whats the Legal Age to Get Married Anymore?

4 posted on 02/23/2014 12:56:28 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is it legal to smoke weed in Colo when you’re 18?


5 posted on 02/23/2014 12:57:32 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I guess the Colorado 20 year olds will just have to smoke pot instead.


6 posted on 02/23/2014 12:58:02 PM PST by berdie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All a part of turning adults into mindless, dependent children.

Stay on your parent’s health insurance until 26.

College until you are 30.

No drinking until 21.

No smoking until 21.

Next, the ptb will change age at which one is legally responsible to 21.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 1:01:02 PM PST by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lady your judgement probably wasn’t much better at 21 than 19.


8 posted on 02/23/2014 1:01:30 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
a wheelchair-bound and oxygen-tank-dependent 86-year-old longtime smoker at a committee hearing this week.

You know, it's unfortunate for this gal that she has health problems, but as a non-smoker, I can only hope I'll be so lucky as to make it to 86. I know many non-smokers who have left us long before 86. There's sort of this crazy delusion out there that if tobacco didn't exist, everyone would be out there turning cartwheels at 110.
9 posted on 02/23/2014 1:02:37 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: nascarnation

EXACTLY !!!


10 posted on 02/23/2014 1:03:42 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: irishjuggler

I know many smokers who never had an issue. Ban the cigs but elevate weed. Great idear huh? Second hand smoke is about as dangerous as second hand fa**ts. Just don’t light ‘em. ;>}


11 posted on 02/23/2014 1:05:37 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: irishjuggler

Yep. My non-smoking mom died from cancer at 52. I would give my left arm to have her another 44 years.


12 posted on 02/23/2014 1:05:42 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Reddy

ptb?


13 posted on 02/23/2014 1:06:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: irishjuggler

Yep. My non-smoking mom died from cancer at 52. I would give my left arm to have her another 44 years.

***************Math sucks. 34 years.


14 posted on 02/23/2014 1:07:25 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The interesting thing is, very few stats have laws about tobacco use - just tobacco purchasing.


15 posted on 02/23/2014 1:09:55 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is insanity. This whole move to make people perfect is does not acknowledge human nature. People need to be informed, allowed to make mistakes, suffer the consequences, and learn from their experiences.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 1:12:06 PM PST by grania
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To: autumnraine
I hear ya. And same here. What we wouldn't do to have our non-smoking moms still around at 86... even with wheelchairs and oxygen.

I don't mean to be too hard on this old lady who testified. She certainly has the right to advocate her views, but I that hope she and her family realize that there are people who don't necessarily look at her and think she got the rawest deal in the world.
17 posted on 02/23/2014 1:19:38 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Let me get this straight. The government says you have the right to murder a child growing inside of you but you can’t smoke a cigarette? Damn. I’m going to have start doing recreational drugs if I’m ever going to be able to figure out how this commie “Prog” sh*t works.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 1:25:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Communism kills!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Colorado is close to having the dubious distinction of being the “Amsterdam of the West”. And I’m supposed to believe they care about their children’s health?


19 posted on 02/23/2014 1:28:58 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If you are trusted to fight and Die for America as well as vote, you should be able to drink and smoke.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 1:35:09 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: irishjuggler

Thank you. I was trying to think of a tactful way to say what you did...very tactfully.


21 posted on 02/23/2014 1:44:11 PM PST by berdie
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To: Gabz
I recall when cig machines were in the lobby of every place of business....maybe 25¢/pack?


22 posted on 02/23/2014 1:48:37 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; GeronL

Legalizing pot and banning tobacco.

Who says the drug war ended?


23 posted on 02/23/2014 1:59:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Daffynition

I remember that as well, but I remember them being 49cents (but that was NYC which was always higher than most other places.)


24 posted on 02/23/2014 2:05:06 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No smoke, no vote! If you’ve got to be 21 to smoke (i.e., not of sufficient age to make a reasonable decision), then it stands to reason you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.


25 posted on 02/23/2014 2:28:39 PM PST by Boomer One
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If they would just raise the smoking age to 65, they would practically eliminate lung cancer.

Of course they would lose a lot of tax revenue.

26 posted on 02/23/2014 4:01:57 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: KC_Lion

Depends on the State...some things still do. I think the youngest is 14.


27 posted on 02/23/2014 4:08:27 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Daffynition

I remember when cigs were 19¢ a pack out of a machine. You put in your two dimes, pulled the handle and out came a pack of Lucky Strike cigarettes or any other brand available. Inside the wrapper was a bright new penny.

They cost 17¢ at the store. “Marvel” cigarettes, the generic of it’s day were just 14¢ a pack and if you wanted to go even cheaper, Buy Bull Durham and rolling paper.

Yes indeed, I’m old.


28 posted on 02/23/2014 4:32:45 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Welfare is a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. F.D.R.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BLOAT


29 posted on 02/23/2014 5:31:09 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Graybeard58

I remember when cigs were 19¢ a pack out of a machine. You put in your two dimes, pulled the handle and out came a pack of Lucky Strike cigarettes or any other brand available. Inside the wrapper was a bright new penny.


I didn’t get there until the price was WAS $0.24 and the penny was under the cellophane........yep, gettin’ old.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 5:34:17 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Oh Woe is me the criminal acts of my youth. Sixth grade my teacher was also the principal with a four pack a day habit of Kent 100 Filter Kings. Every morning he'd either call me or my cousin out in the hallway, hand us a $5 bill and sent one of us across the highway to the General Store for his daily smokes.

Recess time after lunch was more crimes against the state involving a majority of the class. The teacher would go to his office and most of the class would go over a small hill and down to the creek bank where the daily accumulation of contraband from parents cigarette packs were lit up and inhaled.

I was raised by non smoking parents so I didn't start smoking till high school where it was openly permitted. I was born in 1957 so age 18 was the age of majority in my state for all things. I'd smoke maybe a cigarette or two a day and after leaving high school I stopped. Then I enlisted and I smoked in Boot Camp at smoke breaks just because smoke and cokes were allowed. On the ship I used Skoal because smoking spaces were limited.

After I got out of the Navy and married my first wife smoked and so did I as did my second wife for about a year. I quit with maybe a total of five years being a regular smoker. I didn't have any problems quiting. Sis on the other hand would smoke five packs if they were handed to her.

31 posted on 02/23/2014 6:04:56 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Colorado?

Home of the perpetually stoned dopers?

“Sorry son, You’re too young to buy a pack of Luckies. How about a nice bag of dope?”


32 posted on 02/23/2014 6:54:51 PM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: Daffynition
I recall when cig machines were in the lobby of every place of business....maybe 25¢/pack?

My mom used to send me down to the corner store to get her a pack of smokes from the cigarette machine.

They cost 18¢ a pack back then so she would give me 20¢ in nickles and dimes.
When you bought the cigarettes they came out of the machine with two pennies taped to the pack.


33 posted on 02/23/2014 7:06:23 PM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 02/23/2014 7:31:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Instead of no tobacco until 21, I’d rather the age to vote went back to 21. Obama got in with the help of the 18 to 21 voters who wanted a cool Black dude.


35 posted on 02/23/2014 9:14:41 PM PST by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What would be nice is if the voting age went back to 21 except for people in the military.


36 posted on 02/24/2014 9:07:19 AM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: angry elephant

I would raise it to 25, except for people in the military, because that age is apparently when the human brain is finally fully developed.


37 posted on 02/24/2014 9:30:22 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

sorry, just saw this. Powers That Be.


38 posted on 02/25/2014 9:47:28 AM PST by Reddy (bo stinks)
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