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Why I'm Getting Sick of Defending Obamacare
National Journal ^ | Feb 11, 2014 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 02/11/2014 7:23:09 AM PST by upchuck

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To: upchuck
Put me in the frustrated category. I want the ACA to work because I want health insurance provided to the millions without it...

Looks like Ron still wants to believe in Santa Claus after all. In fact, the principal beneficiaries of 0bamacare are the well-funded bureaucracy it creates. It's of the government, by the government, and for the government. Pills For The Poor was always a scam and it simply hasn't happened yet, and if it ever does it will be an afterthought.

In point of fact, Ron is discovering that his ability to feel good is costing the rest of us a great deal of money and a great deal of political freedom. He's still for it, though, so long as it continues to make him feel nobler than the people he's defrauding.

21 posted on 02/11/2014 8:12:39 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: alexander_busek

Work = money = stuff I wanna buy.


22 posted on 02/11/2014 8:16:32 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: upchuck
I want health insurance provided to the millions without it, for both the moral and economic benefits. <<

...and I want Unicorns to poop skittles.....and what moral and economic benefits?????????????

23 posted on 02/11/2014 8:19:08 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: upchuck
I want health insurance provided to the millions without it, for both the moral and economic benefits.

Mr. Fournier, there is nothing moral about taking people's money at gunpoint because you "want health insurance provided to the millions." No matter how "charitable" you may think you are with other people's money, your real purpose is self-aggrandizement. Worse, there is no constitutional power for your Federal agents to do your paid hit for you. It is therefore taking money at gunpoint illegally. It is theft.

So much for "moral benefits."

24 posted on 02/11/2014 8:22:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

Notice Fournie did not say the GOP has "...not offered a serious alternative that can work..."

25 posted on 02/11/2014 8:24:39 AM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: Prov1322

Yeah, what a DB. The guy decries the “win at all costs” mentality that led to Obamacare, then criticizes the GOP for not being able to effectively overcome/fight it.


26 posted on 02/11/2014 8:35:28 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: goodnesswins

You forget that the cost of medical care is very tightly linked with what the government will pay for a particular procedure, not supply and demand or market forces.


27 posted on 02/11/2014 8:39:10 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: upchuck
...I want the ACA to work because I want health insurance provided to the millions without it...

Idiot. This 2010 turd started with 30 million and ends with 30 million "uninsured".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/07/obamacare-leaves-millions-uninsured-heres-who-they-are/

28 posted on 02/11/2014 9:04:21 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: upchuck

Ron you are a blithering idiot from the land of unicorns.


29 posted on 02/11/2014 9:14:19 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well of course....ever since government got involved....that was my point. I’m old enough to remember when there was no government in healthcare...and doctors made house calls....and we were lower middle class...


30 posted on 02/11/2014 9:48:35 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: upchuck

Who is this guy’s doctor, anyway? What if doctors said to these people who have ruined medicine for all of us—get lost!! Hit the road, M’sieu Fournier!


31 posted on 02/11/2014 10:05:01 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: upchuck
The win-at-all-cost mentality helped create a culture in which a partisan-line vote was deemed sufficient for passing transcendent legislation

He says this disparagingly as though the heavy handed tactic is something to be looked down on yet Fournier still backed ACA.

These people make NO sense.

32 posted on 02/11/2014 10:19:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If it were not for work provided insurance, most people would not be able to afford health insurance.

If a tax credit is provided instead, millions can shop for their own insurance and prices will come way down.

Employer provided insurance is keeping prices sky high.

33 posted on 02/11/2014 10:21:26 AM PST by what's up
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To: Prov1322

I zeroed in in that too. It seens to me a de facto admission that the GOP has offered serious proposals.


34 posted on 02/11/2014 11:46:54 AM PST by pluvmantelo (The thing of it is, we must live with the living- Michel de Montaigne)
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To: upchuck
I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

Hey, Obamacare proved that with a slim majority and a lot of bribery, anything can pass Congress--no matter what.

37 posted on 02/11/2014 4:13:15 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: upchuck
The link between work and insurance needs to be broken.

The collusion between the DNC and MSM on daily talking points needs to be broken.

38 posted on 02/11/2014 4:28:13 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: upchuck
sick??? i hope you get so sick that you start puking up sh!t from past lifetimes...
39 posted on 02/11/2014 4:32:28 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: upchuck
"I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress."

What a disingenuous bastard! Blame Harry Reid and the Democrats' Borg-minded intransigence, not Republicans for that!

HF

40 posted on 02/11/2014 4:37:39 PM PST by holden
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