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To pre-ordain legislation based on triggers that may or may not occur is pure foolishness and lazy. Triggers that force re-evaluation and new legislation to be drawn up would be a much for sensible approach.
1 posted on 02/02/2014 9:32:32 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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A trigger to repeal bad legislation is an even better idea.

The pork-laden ADM/farm bill for instance.

2 posted on 02/02/2014 9:35:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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The GOPe know very well that conservatives are not going to let it pass. They will use this to further their claims that conservations are the obstructionists.

It was their plan. They are at war against conservatives.


3 posted on 02/02/2014 9:37:52 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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Distrust of President Obama was “the biggest issue” that Republicans raised in their discussions of amnesty.

Completely understandable----b/c amnesty is Obamacare w/ Spanish subtitles.

5 posted on 02/02/2014 9:38:13 AM PST by Liz
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How about an “immigration reform” bill that does only one thing: enforce border security. Let’s get that done and then maybe in a couple of years we can talk about other things.


6 posted on 02/02/2014 9:38:38 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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We all know how much attention Obama would pay to ‘triggers’ in an immigration bill, don’t we! About as much as he pays attention to laws requiring deportation...

Ryan is a tool. A wedge.


7 posted on 02/02/2014 9:39:50 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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"So it's a security-first non-amnesty approach."

BS, Ryan. If illegals are allowed any outcome other than punishment for breaking immigration laws, that's amnesty. That's not my definition, it's the dictionary's.

8 posted on 02/02/2014 9:42:31 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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I can’t for the life of me understand what the rationale is behind this push for amnesty. Is it all to show their Chamber of Cronyism contributors how hard they are trying so they won’t be cut off?


9 posted on 02/02/2014 9:43:16 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Fate of Paul Ryan, as a national candidate, is also clearly in doubt.


11 posted on 02/02/2014 9:46:18 AM PST by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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Agitating pressure groups kept amnesty alive (1) by colluding w/ Third World govts salivating over the prospect of zillions in foreign aid....and....(2) dangling the carrot of illegal votes in front of vote-crazed Democrats .

Obama did everything he could to help---everything except fellate an illegal on the steps of the Capitol.

America-hating Ana Navarro---sometimes billed as a "GOP strategist" and/or "McCain adviser" says "she thinks" people on the right oppose amnesty because "they are racist..."

Race-baiting is Ana's second obsession (after gorging herself at the fiesta).

Lets set fat Ana straight:

(a) People on the right "KNOW" that people like Ana Navarro want amnesty b/c Navarro, and her ilk, despise America; her remarks show she loathes Americans.

(b) People on the right "KNOW" that amnesty is a diabolical plan to undermine US national security.

REFERENCE Quoting Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter: “The ultimate MECha ideolog/y is the liberation of Aztlan (taking back the SW). Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing (of Americans) would commence: Non-Chicanos (Americans) would have to be expelled — opposition groups (that's us) would be quashed because latinos have to keep power (over the gringos they loathe).”

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LOOK AT EM--- OBAMA, AND US LAWMAKERS, IN LOCKSTEP---COLLUDING TO STAGE A THIRD WORLD COUPE D'ETAT. The not so well-hidden amnesty agenda seems to have specific goals:

<><> (1) undermining US ntl security,

<><> (2) aiding and abetting crimes against Americans,

<><> (3) financing Third World political goals w/ US tax dollars,

<><> (4) suppressing dissent.

Heavens to Berchtesgarden.....IS A "PUTSCH" IN THE OFFING?

12 posted on 02/02/2014 9:46:47 AM PST by Liz
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I would not trust one word that come out of this RINOs Ryan mouth.


17 posted on 02/02/2014 9:54:27 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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Is Ryan getting primaried?

He should be.

There are no FRee rides anymore..

or ought not be with the stakes so high.


18 posted on 02/02/2014 9:54:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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I truly detest this b$st@rd.


19 posted on 02/02/2014 9:55:12 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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How about a border? How about eradicating press one for English? Just in emergency calls, perhaps, 911, poison control?

Ryan is a nit wit


21 posted on 02/02/2014 9:56:35 AM PST by stanne
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Ryan also provided greater detail about how the GOP's approach might be structured. Referring to provisions to increase border security and interior security, Ryan said “those things have to be in law, in practice, and independently verified before the rest of the law can occur. So it's a security-first non-amnesty approach.”

Ryan, forever remembered as the guy who attacked disabled veterans, thinks we're stupid.

"The rest of the law" you deceiver? There should be just one part of the first law. A completed fence, completed border and coastal security, and completed visa control.

Get that law done.

Then we'll see what happens.

26 posted on 02/02/2014 10:02:54 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Paul Ryan: Fate of Immigration Bill 'Clearly in Doubt'

FINALLY... some GOOD NEWS!

29 posted on 02/02/2014 10:15:09 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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Watch out! This is a Ryan con job.

He will talk like a conservative with ‘secure border’ first etc.

Then he will get a limited bill for border security passed in the House where it goes to the Senate and gets gutted and the Senate replaces it with a full amnesty version. Then it comes back to the House for a vote where all the dems and 17 ‘squish’ moderate republicans vote to pass it.

The thing to do now on immigration is NOTHING AT ALL!

NO IMMIGRATION REFORM, NOT ONE SENTENCE, UNTIL CONSERVATIVES CONTROL THE HOUSE, SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE!

And Ryan is no conservative, he’s a snake.


30 posted on 02/02/2014 10:22:16 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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He’s the new Kerry. He was for it, now he has doubts and soon enough will be against it. He is not the man we were happy to see as Veep candidate.


33 posted on 02/02/2014 10:34:14 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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Just how many triggers has there been since 1986? The most recent immigration law mandated a 700 mile double fence be built, where in the hell is the 700 mile fence? The current immigration law mandates anyone who enters the United States illegally is to be apprehended and deported, that is not happening! How many socialist sanctuary cities are there in the United States now?

Of course the American people will support numerous triggers in another immigration law, especially if “border security” is first before any amnesty! (sarc off).

Never has any immigration law been enforced since the first wave of amnesty for illegal Mexican Nationals who disrespect our Nations laws, why in the hell would any American expect the latest joke of an immigration law to be enforced?

Simple answer, this immigration law will not be enforced either and within five (5) years or less, another 30-450 million illegal Mexican Nationals will be lined up for another round of amnesty! Hell, why don't the American people just plant the Mexican flag and get it over with, we could then invade Mexico and liberate that shit hole!

This is such a joke, I can't believe it is even being discussed during an election year where the RINO’s expect to get reelected and won't over this crap!

34 posted on 02/02/2014 10:37:09 AM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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He’s the new Kerry. He was for it, now he has doubts and soon enough will be against it. He is not the man we were happy to see as Veep candidate.


35 posted on 02/02/2014 10:37:19 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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The GOP should keep up talking about immigration legislation (just don’t do it) since it seems to have paralyzed the Democrats.


36 posted on 02/02/2014 10:37:51 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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