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1 posted on 01/27/2014 8:37:40 AM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

The Demonuts would never support a Republican plan ,it would just start the Demonut Propaganda Ball rolling


2 posted on 01/27/2014 8:39:30 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: OddLane

Let it happen. It will doom the GOP (none to soon) thereby giving us more time to halt our constant altitude loss and hopefully regain controlled flight before the ground rises up, smites us, and proves once again that socialism never has, and never will work.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 8:40:23 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: OddLane

If the DemocRATS can just get the GOP to just pass something, their activist “judges” at the Federal “Courts” will be able to modify and “fix” it.


4 posted on 01/27/2014 8:42:07 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: OddLane; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; ...
RE :”The reasons for this are transparently political: citizens vote and people living in various nebulous noncitizen categories don’t. That way Republicans can hope they can get credit for a softer immigration stand without adding to a Hispanic voting bloc that is majority Democratic.
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Nevertheless, this Republican ploy is too clever by half. The political benefits of supporting even a 1986-style amnesty with path to citizenship are debatable at best. Will Republicans really improve their standing among Hispanic voters by offering something less than a path to citizenship, especially when the Democrats are willing to give more?”

I think it would be a clever ploy if we could be sure that Dems would reject it, but they seem to be catching on that they can help GOP pass a bill without citizenship and then blame the GOP.

5 posted on 01/27/2014 8:43:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: OddLane
Last time an idiot President (Bush Jr.) tried to shove Mexico-Merger down our throats, his anti-American betrayal was thwarted by patriots in Congress.

With current idiot Obama, however, they may not be enough patriots left on the Hill to beat back the treason.

10 posted on 01/27/2014 8:51:39 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: OddLane
The widely underestimated number of illegals is 11 million. Using that number, on average, that is 220,000 people per state. Given the number of actual American still looking for work, I'm not perceiving an available extra 10,000 unfilled jobs in any of the 50 states, let alone 220,000.
11 posted on 01/27/2014 8:52:54 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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12 posted on 01/27/2014 8:56:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: OddLane
The Democrats will kill any bill in the Senate that doesn't match their own.

The GOP in the House is just spinning it's wheels, as usual.

14 posted on 01/27/2014 9:07:29 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: OddLane

it will satisfy me when the GOP kills itself with it.


16 posted on 01/27/2014 9:23:37 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: OddLane

An open letter to the GOP Members of the House

As a Representative in Congress, you are this Oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

"Support and defend" the Constitution." That document requires, per Art.4, S.4, that

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

An invasion is what we are suffering. That invasion has accelerated with each "comprehensive immigration reform" previously enacted. Instead of another disasterous reform that increases the incentives for millions more to try their luck crossing the southern border, a Representative who took his Oath and the Constitution seriously would be pressing for what the American people have repeatedly said they want - not what Senator Schumer, Mexico or some border state farmers and homebuilders want. That is:
  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the Mexican government); and
  5. NO "Path to Citizenship" for anyone who has entered the US illegally.
Any bill that does not accomplish these five things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty.

If the GOP is complicit in this amnesty fiasco, either by taking up the Senate bill or through some piecemeal slight of hand with a series of House bills such as we hear are being cooked up this week, the GOP will cease to exist. It will not survive through the 2016 elections. The people will shun the over-tanned, gladhanding, backslapping quislings and look elsewhere for leaders who actually have the spine for the fight. Make no mistake - to me and many, many others, amnesty is the GOP's Rubicon. Cross it at your electoral peril.

17 posted on 01/27/2014 9:34:42 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: OddLane

All Real Conservatives, and most common sense Americans...want the borders secured and all Illegal Aliens deported.

It’s just the bleeding heart liberals, the Open Borders - Free Trader One World Third Way Globalists, and the ethnic racist groups, that want Illegal Alien Amnesty.

All the money of the latter never overcomes the reality of the former


22 posted on 01/27/2014 9:43:04 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: OddLane

Well, when you consider the fact the GOPe is playing to lose, I’d say they learned their lessons perfectly well.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 10:12:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: OddLane; All
"A GOP Immigration Plan
to Satisfy No One"


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32 posted on 01/27/2014 3:20:06 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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