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A Soldier in the Great War (US Military Allows Beards, etc)
National Review ^ | January 27, 2014 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 01/27/2014 5:42:54 AM PST by C19fan

An epidemic of pogonophobia is upon the land – pogonophobia being the irrational fear of beards. It comes in response to a Pentagon directive that gives some latitude to U.S. troops who wear beards — and turbans, and yarmulkes — for religious reasons. The usual rabble was out in force, complaining that the military is knuckling under to liberal sensibilities: “PC gone mad,” one conservative blogger put it, arguing that the change comes “thanks to Obama’s love of Muslims.” The sentiment was repeated elsewhere. With apologies to Willi Schlamm, sometimes the problem with conservatism is conservatives.

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KEYWORDS: beards; military; sikhs
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I support not forcing Sikhs to choose to follow their religion and be part of the US military. As Mr. Williamson mentions Sikhs served and serve with distinction under the British and Indian army. They have been killing Muzzies for over 3 centuries.
1 posted on 01/27/2014 5:42:54 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Duuuhhhhhhhhh...........

Ever hear of the “gas mask”?

This is doubling down on “stupid”—but there’s a lot of that going around these days.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 5:47:50 AM PST by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, shira is POISON.)
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To: Flintlock

When is the last time a US soldier had to actually use a gas mask for anything but training?


3 posted on 01/27/2014 5:50:13 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: C19fan

The US Navy allowed beards for may years in the 70s and early 80s without much problem. And even more time if in Antarctica.

So what’s the big deal?


4 posted on 01/27/2014 5:52:15 AM PST by CPOSharky (If a libtards lips are moving...)
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To: C19fan

This will be allowed on a case by case basis

How many will be allowed to wear crosses?

How many will be allowed to wear a yarmulke ?


5 posted on 01/27/2014 5:52:18 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: C19fan

I have seen multiple examples of US military members blending in with facial hair in Afghanistan. The horror!


6 posted on 01/27/2014 5:53:22 AM PST by petitfour
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To: CPOSharky

Good point. My brother had lots of facial hair while in Antarctica.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 5:54:16 AM PST by petitfour
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To: C19fan

Was Mr. Williamson in the military? The reason I was given that the gas mask needed a seal. I was instructed to put my hand on the canister and exhale then inhale to seal the mask. I asked because in the navy beards were allowed.


8 posted on 01/27/2014 5:55:53 AM PST by the_daug
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To: jospehm20

Iraq


9 posted on 01/27/2014 5:56:56 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: C19fan

“fundamentally change the US”


10 posted on 01/27/2014 5:58:04 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CPOSharky

fitting a helmet over a turban could be a problem unless the solder wants to look like Marge Simpson


11 posted on 01/27/2014 5:59:57 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CPOSharky

I don’t remember Moochelle being in the Navy...


12 posted on 01/27/2014 6:00:09 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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I for one would not mind seeing the higher brass sporting beards ala Robert E Lee or Ulysses S Grant. They would look more like American warriors of yore instead of bureaucrats.
13 posted on 01/27/2014 6:03:51 AM PST by gusty
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I have too, but I get the feeling it is more an allowance for the theater of operations. Many Afghani tribal leaders wouldn't take a grown man without a beard seriously or so I was told by a friend at work. He just got back from 16 months in Afghanistan.

CC

14 posted on 01/27/2014 6:05:26 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: gusty

“Beards” are being allowed only to appease the muzzies. Yes, there have been beards allowed in the Navy but they are rare (submariners yes).


15 posted on 01/27/2014 6:06:28 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: jospehm20

We personally had to use them in 1990 in Kuwait. Or detectors kept picking up nerve agents.


16 posted on 01/27/2014 6:06:55 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: C19fan

First off, I don’t like Mr. Williamson’s characterization of people who don’t like this as “rabble”. Keep in mind National Review also thinks John Derbyshire is rabble, too.

Secondly, one of the reasons for not allowing facial hair is not just for practical reasons, but to make everyone as close to being the same as possible. That’s why there are regulations for hair and uniforms. Yes, someone with dreadlocks or a punk-rock mohawk can fire a gun. You want everybody to look like a unified force.

Can you imagine an officer with a beard inspecting troops, and telling a soldier with some beard stubble that he’s a mess, and needs to shave?

If having a beard is ok, then anyone should be allowed to have one no matter their religious beliefs.

What’s next, female Muslim soldiers with Burkas?


17 posted on 01/27/2014 6:07:32 AM PST by TheGipperWasRight
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To: gusty
One word: muttonchops. I look great with them (kinda like Kevin McNally in pirates of the caribbean). But I've got the same problem: work won't let me wear 'em and for the same reason- I gotta be fit tested annually for a gas mask (corrections). The first thing I do on my retirement day: stop shaving for about 6 months.

CC

18 posted on 01/27/2014 6:11:51 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Progov

I guess you did not read the article. Mr. Williamson was talking about Sikhs, not Muslims. Sikhs being a sect that’s reason to exist is to fight Muslims. It is what they do. They are a warrior race. It is pointed out that the military of Jack Pershing had no problem allowing Sikhs keep their beards and turbins. Ask the Japanese how it felt fighting against beards and turbins at Imphal and Kohima.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 6:14:54 AM PST by gusty
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To: Dusty Road

I was there for years and never used mine.


20 posted on 01/27/2014 6:18:01 AM PST by jospehm20
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